Why did people think that ancient Egyptians were black?

	Why did people think that ancient Egyptians were black? They've done DNA testing that have confirmed that ancient Egyptians are the same people that live there today- middle easterners, not blacks. Also, the art depicting the ancient Egyptians have middle eastern features, not black. This isn't a racist question despite what some people might claim, it's purely in the interest of science and history. Asked By: msminnamouse - 2/12/2007

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Egyptians of the Upper Nile were brown skinned mediterranian in appearance The lower nile dwellers were much darker and could be considered black These were the Nubians. Upper Egypt invaded the lowere reaches of the Nile and spread its empire South absorbing many of the Nubians into the court and jobs amongst the Nobility King Shabaka was the first Nubian Pharoh. Ever since the time of the Hyksos invasion and the fall of the Second Kingdom, the demographic shift amongst the Egyptian population had been against the original Whites. Slowly at first, but then speeding up, non-Whites or mixed racial types began to make up more and more of that country's population - drawn in as slaves, laborers, immigrants or invaders. These other racial types were of two sorts: Semites (whom the Egyptians called "Sand Dwellers") and Blacks, from region of Nubia in the far south (present day Sudan). A review of Egypt's relations with Nubia is therefore crucial to understanding what happened to the White Egyptians, and why they vanished. RACE WAR WITH NUBIA Clashes between the Egyptians and the Black Nubians had long been a feature of Egyptian history, with the first campaigns against the Nubians being launched by Old Kingdom pharaohs around 2900 BC. In 2570 BC, Pharaoh Sneferu launched a concerted attack upon Nubia. Egyptian records show that 70,000 prisoners were taken, a figure that must have been a staggering amount at the time. In 1296 BC Egypt conquered Nubia and built a series of massive forts to protect Egypt's southern borders against the Nubians, with the most famous of these being the fort at Buhen, that had walls which were 111 meters high and 4.5 meters thick. Along the banks of the southern Nile huge stones were erected upon which, in hieroglyphics still visible today, the passage of Blacks past those points was forbidden - the first public "Whites Only" signs in history. At the time of the Hyksos invasion of Egypt, many local Nubian kings allied themselves with the Hyksos and inflicted defeats upon the weakened Egyptians. When the Hyksos were finally driven out, the White Egyptians exacted a terrible revenge upon the Blacks, launching many campaigns of conquest and suppression against them, all the while bringing back thousands into Egypt as slaves - a racial time bomb which was eventually to destroy Egyptian civilization. EGYPTIAN WRITINGS ABOUT BLACKS The White Egyptians left many written references to the Black population in Nubia and in their own midst. In fact, at one point, their writings record a law that forbade Blacks from entering their country at all. Egyptians of the Upper Nile considered their people to be the Pure race Answered By: Shelty K - 2/12/2007

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You obviously haven't done any "real" reading because if you have then your obvious ludicrous 'story' would have never been written, let alone put on the web. First, ancient egyptians were really called ancient khamites. Egypt is not in the middle east, in recent years 'people' began to place it into the middle east, so does that mean that Africa is the middle east too because that's the location of Egypt. The arabs migrated to Egypt from the middle east in ancient times to force their religion onto the Africans. Where did you get your facts from because no DNA testing can be done on the ancient Khamites because they're protected. Their mummified bodies can not be taken from out of their tombs for personal interests or studies. Of course, people will paint Cleopatra's face white because they can not understand how a strong beautiful African Queen came to Rome and stole the hearts of Ceaser and others. I am sick of people trying to take African History away from African Americans. Please do yourself a favor and read John Henrik Clarke's book “My life in search of Africa". This intelligent man even taught white people their history, earned his doctorates and didn't even finish college let alone high school. P.S. where did you ever hear of a white woman, in ancient times, wear braids in her hair. You really need to read more because school history books reflects white culture not African American or Latin culture, wow, two or three pages out of 400pages; Give me a break. How would you feel if people began claiming that Caesar was really an African? Here's another question, how come the arabs living in egypt can't speak the ancient language like most Africans. I can speak some of the ancient language. Please go to the local libraries and check out any Ancient Egyptian book with pictures and you will see/understand and/or realize that Ancient Khamites is African History and not White. Answered By: nneka s - 2/14/2007

What is a "middle-easterner"? Countries like Turkey and Iran, for example, which are in the "Middle East", are grouped together with Arabs, even though they are Indo-European, not Arab. And another thing a lot of people don't know is that of the 200 million or so people on this planet that are called Arabs, most of them are just called Arabs because they speak Arabic. The real Arabs are from the Arabian Peninsula, all other people called Arabs (Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Tunisia, etc.), are descened from people like the Ancient Egyptians who became part of the Arab Empire in the 700-800 A.D. Genetic tests done on Palestinians for example, trace their ancestry to sub-Saharan Africa, southern Europe, and even northern Europe. They even found genes from Central and East Asia in some of the population. Also, what in the world are "middle-eastern" features? If you go to Syria, there are a lot of people with blond or brown hair and green/blue eyes, who look very much white. I have been to the "Middle East", and I have seen people from the same families that have different colors of skin, eyes, and hair. If you saw my grandmother, for example, you'd think she's German. My great-grandfather, on the other hand, was a black man. Since the area known as the "Middle East" is located between Africa, Europe, and Asia, people from that area can trace their ancestry to a variety of places, which accounts for why some Arabs look white, while others look black, while others look midway between black and white ("colored"). Ancient Egyptians looked much like the Egyptians of today. These people (like most of the "Middle East") had extensive contact with sub-Saharan Africa, and also contact with ethnicities like the Greeks and Romans, so they have genes from both Europe and Africa. There is no such thing as "middle-eastern" features. If you actually go to Egypt, or another Arab country, you will see the different skin/hair/eye colors of people. It's because Arabic-speaking people are of mixed ancestry, being at the crossroads between Europe, Africa, and Asia. Source(s): My family is from the "Middle East". Answered By: Knicks #34 - 2/13/2007

Their skin was dark to adapt to the region in which they lived,nothing more nothing less... Answered By: Chef Combo S - 2/13/2007

I never heard people thought they were black. Although I believe that their skin is and was dark. Answered By: clcalifornia - 2/12/2007

Well, Egypt is in africa, so it's easy to come to that conclusion, but you're right, they are middle easterners. Answered By: Robert - 2/12/2007

I never heard of history teaching ancient Egyptians to have black features. Where did you hear that? They certainly were not Germanic Anglo Saxons thats for sure, I remember the textbook drawings of the pharoahs, Cleopatra, Nefertiti from school. They were not black. What are you talking about? Answered By: Quite New Here - 2/12/2007

I think your answer depends on what you consider to be "black". If you mean black as in African, than the Egyptians are, as you'd say, 'black' because Egypt is on the continent of Africa. If you think 'black' means you have a colored comlection, well, I don't know... some Egyptians could be 'black' and some could not. That also depends on how much color you think a person has to have to make them 'black'. In response to your DNA comment: Egypt is right next to the Middle East and I think it may be considered part of the Middle East. People have traveled between the two places for thousands of years. The groups of people have probably inter-married and maybe that's why they look similar to you. If you're still confused, just call people from Egypt: "Egyptians" and leave color out of the whole thing. Answered By: amo real madrid - 2/12/2007

How did they get the DNA of ancient Egyptians? Did they find some ancient cigarette butts around the pyramids or something? Answered By: michinoku2001 - 2/12/2007

I've noticed that too that a lot of people have this misconception. I pointed this out during a discussion in an African American studies course in college. A fellow student was angry that Cleopatra was always portrayed as a "white woman". I felt compelled in the spirit of factual education to point out that Cleopatra wasn't "white" or "black", but Greek--as all rulers of Egypt were at that time. People are going to have their ideas no matter what.....ignorance isn't always bliss. Source(s): Any good history book. Answered By: Rebecca YZ - 2/12/2007

That opinion was generally held only by a small number of activists who wanted to claim Egyptian grandeur for black people. And in fairness, the art of the Upper Nile (in what is now Sudan) reveals that those Egyptians really were black--or, more correctly, Nubian. But you're right, there is no such thing as a pan-African culture; African people are just as racially varied as any other society on earth. Answered By: nbsandiego - 2/12/2007

The racial characteristics of ancient Egyptians have been a subject of debate and controversy dating back to 18th century natural history. Ironically, the Egyptians considered themselves part of a distinct race, separate from their neighbors. Mainstream consensus is that ancient Egypt was a mixed-race gestalt of African and Middle Eastern ethnicities. There are alternative views, however. Afrocentric scholars such as Martin Bernal and Cheikh Anta Diop claim that dynastic Egypt was from its inception – and remained throughout several millennia – a primarily black, African civilization. Most modern Egyptologists believe the Egyptians thought of themselves as Egyptian people, not African, Mediterranean, White, or Black people. Over the centuries, numerous writers and scholars have recorded their impressions and reactions upon seeing the Great Sphinx of Giza. French scholar Constantin-François de Chassebœuf, Comte de Volney visited Egypt between 1783 and 1785. He is one of the earliest known Western scholars to remark upon what he saw as its "typically n***o" countenance. Upon visiting Egypt in 1849, French author Gustave Flaubert echoed de Volney's observations. In his travelog chronicling his trip, he wrote: "We stopped before a Sphinx....... the fact that the nose is missing increases the flat, negroid effect. Besides, it was certainly Ethiopian; the lips are thick So I guess it depends on scientists' opinions. Answered By: sophieb - 2/12/2007

Ancient Egyptians were actually mixed. Some were brown with curly hair, some were black with nappy hair, some where white with straight hair. The majority were of the brown curly-haired variety, but you can't dismiss the black people that lived and thrived there too. As for DNA testing, I didn't know that we could decipher racial differences off the exact same ginetic coding. I must be behind the times. Maybe, just maybe, you could have the DNA thing mixed up with other forms of valid evidence gathering that helped scientists come to that conclusion. Answered By: Ledge - 2/12/2007

Racial categories are modern racialist inventions. Ancient Egyptians could not have cared about colour. 'Mid-Easter' would have meant nothing to them as it does to me. Many 'blacks' are mid-easterners. Ancient Egypt was a very cosmopolitan pot-mix of peoples. The Kush (Ethiopian) and Meroe kingdoms shared connections and communications with Egyptians, Greek, Venetians and mid-easterners in Egypt as elsewhere in the Mediterranean world Answered By: Elder - 2/12/2007

Despite what you might have learned from TV, DNA testing cannot differentiate between races. Who is it that thinks Egyptians are black? Even ancient Egyptian art depicts the people as having been caucasians. Answered By: Charlie B. - 2/12/2007

They lived in what is now africa and the people thought that the people who lived in africa were black Answered By: ??? - 2/12/2007

Some of the controversy stems from the famed Queen of Sheba...who by the way there is no evidence she ever existed. She supposedly controlled egypt before the egyptians and also built the great sphinx...supposedly it was really had a lion head and not a human. You might notice that so much care was put into the creation of the body, yet the head is not in proportion and is also in better condition than the rest of the body lending credit to the idea that it has been re carved, and that its really old, which means the egyptians didn't build it. (ps the nose was blown of by Napolian's army) Answered By: Mark B - 2/12/2007

Like Michel Jackson I think. Answered By: hannibal - 2/12/2007

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	Audit Sales Representative? Scam? I received the following email from these guys: "Hello, my name is Susan Collins and I am Personnel Manager of Audit Sales Company Inc. and will be your supervisor. Thanks for sending us your job application. We'd love to bring you on board. The reason for this email is to touch base with you as a potential candidate for the position we are currently looking to fill (Audit Sales Representative). You replied to our online job posting and I would like to take a moment to familiarize you with who we are. Audit Sales is the worldwide leader in temporary financial staffing, providing excellent opportunities in the areas of accounting, bookkeeping, credit and collections, data entry, finance, payroll, audit and tax. Our relationships with top companies ensure that our employees enjoy competitive pay, and dynamic and ongoing assignments with the best opportunities for temporary and temporary-to-full-time employment. Since opening our doors in 1990 we are recognized as a top performing firm for the Midwest region and have expanded all over USA, Canada and Europe. Future goals include expanding offices to multiple markets across the country. Having gained operational experience in Intern Audit Inc., I recommend all new employees to treat seriously every small detail they may encounter in the course of their work. You have a real chance to obtain quick promotion in the nearest future if our management is satisfied with your job results. Audit Sales Representative is an entry level position that involves transfer of funds from Audit Sales to our client's via Representative's account, consequently eliminating any transfer holds. We don't require any previous experience for this job. We are looking for a trustworthy person to process payments sent from AuditSales.bz to our clients. We will provide an Representative with detailed instructions for payment processing operations including invoices, contracts and all documents regarding current sale. Funds that are deposited into your account comes directly from our company and the funds are sent via instant money transfer service within the USA ( bank wire transfer). You will always be aware exactly where the money is coming from and where it is going. For additional security we provide Invoices and contracts for all transactions completed. We offer a couple types of compensation packages: either performance based pay or base salary plus commission. Of course, details are discussed during your trial period (3 months). When funds enter employee's bank account, Wire Transfer Representative's duty is to withdraw cash and process the funds. The main advantage of our services is the shortest possible time within which the client can receive money for the services/goods. If this operation is delayed, our clients are entitled to cancel their contract with us and we suffer financial loss. Therefore, successful applicant must be very responsible and careful! Our company can guarantee $2,500 base salary + 5?ommission for every transaction done. Working with our company guarantee's you a safe relationship and licensed establishment. If you would like to apply to this vacancy and inquire more detailed information, please fill out our online job application via our secure website: http://www.AuditSales.bz/index.php?action=login BEFORE YOU APPLY PLEASE REVIEW THE FULL JOB DESCRIPTION. We'd like to get started as soon as possible, so please complete the online application today. You will also need to take an online interview when applying for this job opening. If you have any questions/issues please replay to this email. -- Sincerely, Susan Collins Hiring Manager 636 Liberty Ave, 2nd Floor, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 USA" Their web address is AuditSales.bz I have not been able to find anything out about these guys, so I'm thinking that is red flag number one right off the bat.... But has anyone encountered these guys before? Wayne Z - I tried doing a domain search and had no luck, although I didn't exactly give it a thorough attempt.. You have confirmed what I needed to know. Kittysue - The funny thing is I never even sent them my resume! I responded to the posting on Craigslist asking for more information about the company/position and I got that in return, but I gave them absolutely no other information. The whole thing threw up so many red flags. 3 answers - Asked By: Fratty Rower - 5/20/2013

	Are there any career in computers that doesn't involve code scripting? 1 answer - Asked By: Big D - 5/3/2013

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