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Air Force says I can do college in my free time on base in addition to my active duty job/training. True or?

The Air Force recruiter says I can take college classes in my spare time while stationed at any base in addition to my active duty job/training. He says I can walk away from the air force with a degree in a subject entirely different than the job training I do for my military active duty job. Is he just selling me or is there truth to what he's explaining to me? I really would like to join either way. But I need to know if I can trust what this recruiter is telling me. Plus education, along with serving my country before i'm too old, is important to me after all. Thanks.
Okay so what i'm getting so far is that when I join the air force, it is true that I CAN take college credit classes in any subject I choose if it's done in my spare time. Spare time meaning after my military job is finished for the day or on my days off. If i'm deployed in Iraq or another war zone, classes are limited to online classes...if that. So am I restricted to taking classes in the specific military job i'm assigned like someone here mentioned or can I take any college class I desire?

Asked By: World Expert - 3/17/2007
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As mentioned above, CCAF is the degree all Air Force members get. A Community College degree from the Air Force. Take that for what it is worth. It is also mentioned above, and true, that the Air Force will first pay for the degree in your job. Also keep in mind, the Air Force does not gurantee everyone a job when they enlist. 60?o in on an open contract under the Guaranteed Aptitude Area Program.

You may end up working in a hotel on base, with a degree in hotel/restaurant management.

Also mentioned above, the Army pays for your degrees in anything you want, we are offering college courses even to those deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq, along with online courses. The Army also allows every enlistees to choose their job BEFORE enlisting.

See what every branch can offer. Ask the Army Recruiter to show you an FSR2S, use that as a measuring stick as to what each branch can offer you. Also, keep in mind that no matter which branch you enlist in, all branches are deploying to the middle east and are in ground support roles. What surprises most people, is compared to the number deployed, the Army is safer than the Navy and Air Force. Soldiers also deploy less often (depending on job) that Sailors and Airmen. The Air Force and Navy combined still have less personnel than the Army.

Also, if this is possibly a career, the Air Force and Navy are doing drawdowns and letting people go (basically a layoff) of persons, some with 15 years of service, families and mortgages. Their only choice is to switch to Army (Blue-to-Green) to finish their careers, or walk away, having lost retirement.
Answered By: Mark W - 3/17/2007
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You can take classes in any subject you want. The trick is, will you have the time to do it? The recruiter said in your free time - a lot of people don't have any. My husband has been trying to find the time to take online classes since he joined the Army, and his job just doesn't afford him the time to do so. He works at least 12 hours a day, and by the time he gets home and spends a little time with us, it's time to go to bed and get ready to do it all over again. And when he is deployed he works even more hours than that.

How much free time you have really depends on your job and your unit. My husband is in a combat arms job in a unit that deploys as often as possible. If you are in more of a desk job in a less-needed unit, than you may have time. There's really no way to know until you get in.
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Answered By: meesh933 - 3/18/2007
I'm in the air force so listen to me. If you join do not i repeat do not go open in any career field. If you want to go to school in your free time you can but just choose a career in the military that will allow you to have that time. Me myself i am a aircraft maintainer i don't have time to go to school because i am constantly work 12 hour shifts but i have friends who do jobs like public health and they always have the same schedule m-f 8 hours and have plenty of time to go to school. Basically you have to choose an office job in the air force if you want to go to school and have time to study during the week. Even though i work 12 hour shifts i go to school but it is extremely hard so i'm telling choose an office career field but choose the right office career field. If you need any help e-mail me at detroittova@yahoo.com.
Answered By: detroittova - 3/18/2007
Yes it is true and you should get documentation along with your other paperwork.
Answered By: Cindy Roo - 3/17/2007
My cousin joined the reserves in hope of getting money for college. He started his school and was then shipped to basic training, then he started to earn some money with a job. So he never completed school. All Im saying is that it would be difficult becuase your mind is not entirely focued on school.
Answered By: Dan - 3/17/2007
I guess so. But im going as in officer. Try ROTC. it will help you out.
Answered By: Im Joining Air Force in 2 YEARS! - 3/17/2007
It is possible to do, yes.

What he didn't tell you is that if you're on shift work, college will be hard to complete.

What he didn't tell you is that if you deploy, college will be hard to complete.

What he didn't tell you is that until you get your CDCs done and your 5 level upgrade, they won't sign off on tuition assistance.

I got 4 degrees, 3 associate and one baccalaureate while on active duty. It's doable, but not a piece of cake. Ask your recruiter how many degrees HE has BESIDES CCAF.

Bill, retired MSgt in law school

P.S. No, it is NOT true that the USAF will only pay for job-related courses. There are Airmen using tuition assistance for all manner of degrees, job related or otherwise. What you have to remember is the same law that lets the Army pay tuition assistance is the one that lets the USAF do it. The USAF wouldn't make such a stupid policy decision.
Answered By: Bill - 3/17/2007
You can. I am in the Army and I do college classes. The only thing about the Air Force, is that you have to use the take classes dealing with your job. The Army will pay for any classes you want to take. No matter what your job is.
Answered By: chkibo2000 - 3/17/2007
It's true, but you're not going to be able to complete college coursework while you're in training.
Answered By: a_wood80 - 3/17/2007
Well I can tell you this do not take the word of the recruiter only the word of black ink on official paper.

Listen to me why would you join the air force, risk your life, and throw precious years of your youth to harsh discipline? If you want to get a degree from a respectable university the best way to go about it is start from a community college, then transfer to a 4 year university. Why must you throw your life in harm’s way? If you are worried about the money there is BOG, there is FASFA, GRANTS, LOANS, etc don't trade your well being in for a few bucks.

If you want to serve your country become a doctor, become a scientist, become a teacher, a counselor, but if your idea of serving the country is holding a gun and shooting stuff go ahead be my guest we need more people to join so that people like me don't have to.

The military should be the last resort right above sleeping on the streets.

On base universities? 70?uition pay for an associate’s degree? Are you kidding me an associate’s degree is worthless unless you want to become a manager of a fast food joint, and from an on base university? Your degree is worthless without a credible university.

Go ahead listen to these people enlist they make it sound like you’re going to Disneyland lol but wouldn’t you rather be in the comfort of your own home studying to become a doctor sure you will probably have a dead end job with increasing debt but when you are finished it will be all worth it my friend. Or you can go join the military get an AA degree absolutely worthless, get shoved, shot and yelled at and turned into a mindless drone and then at the end become a manager at SEARS.

The military is for the .. how can I put this lightly, it is for those who do not have the mental capacity or willingness for academics. Are you one of those people?
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Answered By: mombogumbo - 3/17/2007
Yes and no. He's not telling you the whole story.

Yes, you can go to school in your off duty time. But, depending on what career you have will depend on what your off duty time consists of.
I was an Air Force cop. Over the course of 8 years, we worked many different schedules, 3 on 1 off (12 hour schedule), 6 on 3 off (8 hour schedule), 4 on 1 off (12 hour schedule), or, if you have an office job, most likely, the normal Monday through Friday 9-5.

Make sure you sign up for the GI Bill. They'll take $1200 from your paychecks your first year, but after 2 years of service, you'll get around $4000 for use for schooling.

You'll have something called CCAF, which is an Air Force degree for your career field. The military will pay 75?f the tuition for that. You are not required to get that, but it's beneficial. I never got it, neither did my husband.

You can also pursue college credits for whatever you want. Most bases will have a small university on base that you can attend, but you don't have to limit yourself to that. It's just easier if you attend classes before or after your shift so you're not going to a school an hour away (for example).

Now, if you were to get deployed, that can usually screw up your education plans pretty quickly. Thankfully, most overseas bases will allow you to still take online courses while deployed. You'll have to discuss that with the Education Center for more details.

Good luck and thank you for your future service.
Answered By: DH - 3/17/2007
Absolutely true...for all services. I served as a platoon leader and XO in the Army. I went to graduate school completing my MBA during my nights, weekend....leave time. It can be done you just have to remember that our duties come first. Don't worry....the USAF will remind you of that fact if you forget!

Good luck.
Answered By: iraq51 - 3/17/2007
I was a pilot in the Air Force. They paid for my BSEE and then my MSEE (electronics). That was back in the first half of the 60s, but so far as I know, it has not changed.
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Answered By: Ray K - 3/17/2007
He is 100?orrect. As was said by others posters, you will have to wait until you finish all your upgrade training (time will depend upon which career field you chose). You can go to school for ANYTHING. They do not care what you study. And as said, how much off-duty time you have to take classes will depend upon your job, your work schedule, and whether or not you deploy. Should you enroll to attend classes in your off-time and your shift is changed or you get picked up for a deployment, oh well. Sorry but the military's needs come first

You can (and are encouraged to) get a CCAF degree, which was explained earlier. If you are working towards a CCAF, an associates, or a bachelor's degree, the Tuition Assistance (TA) program will pay ONE HUNDRED PERCENT (that's 100?of your tuition! Sign up for the GI Bill.You can use this to make the govt continue to pay for your school once you are out (you can use it while you're in as well, but there should be no need if you're using TA).

I'm sure you know this, but disregard what the UCLA guy said about the military being a last resort. It is an honor and a previledge to serve your country and hey, if you can get fantastic training and an education while you're at it, then go for it. Some people don't understand the concept of being patriotic or selflessness.

In the military, (assuming you are 18) you can serve 20 years and collect retirement at age 38! Retire at 38! Most people can only dream of such things! With the training the military will give you, you will (probably) be able to pursue a successful career in the civilian world (again, this is dependant upon what career field you work in), work for another 20 (should you so choose) and retire AGAIN at age 58... collecting 2 retirement checks isn't bad.

Good luck and if you have any questions, let me know! I have been active duty for nearly 9 years.
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Answered By: lexus4nxtc - 3/17/2007
Im sure you can take college credit classes. heck, you can take credits online so i'm sure the military has some system set up. however, check out the specific classes they are offering to see if they match with your major.
Answered By: Matt - 3/17/2007
Absolutely. Many bases have a program on campus, staffed by the faculty of a nearby college. They will work with you.

But bear in mind, your duties of the military come first.
Answered By: FLOYD R - 3/17/2007
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I received the following email from these guys: "Hello, my name is Susan Collins and I am Personnel Manager of Audit Sales Company Inc. and will be your supervisor. Thanks for sending us your job application. We'd love to bring you on board. The reason for this email is to touch base with you as a potential candidate for the position we are currently looking to fill (Audit Sales Representative). You replied to our online job posting and I would like to take a moment to familiarize you with who we are. Audit Sales is the worldwide leader in temporary financial staffing, providing excellent opportunities in the areas of accounting, bookkeeping, credit and collections, data entry, finance, payroll, audit and tax. Our relationships with top companies ensure that our employees enjoy competitive pay, and dynamic and ongoing assignments with the best opportunities for temporary and temporary-to-full-time employment. Since opening our doors in 1990 we are recognized as a top performing firm for the Midwest region and have expanded all over USA, Canada and Europe. Future goals include expanding offices to multiple markets across the country. Having gained operational experience in Intern Audit Inc., I recommend all new employees to treat seriously every small detail they may encounter in the course of their work. You have a real chance to obtain quick promotion in the nearest future if our management is satisfied with your job results. Audit Sales Representative is an entry level position that involves transfer of funds from Audit Sales to our client's via Representative's account, consequently eliminating any transfer holds. We don't require any previous experience for this job. We are looking for a trustworthy person to process payments sent from AuditSales.bz to our clients. We will provide an Representative with detailed instructions for payment processing operations including invoices, contracts and all documents regarding current sale. Funds that are deposited into your account comes directly from our company and the funds are sent via instant money transfer service within the USA ( bank wire transfer). You will always be aware exactly where the money is coming from and where it is going. For additional security we provide Invoices and contracts for all transactions completed. We offer a couple types of compensation packages: either performance based pay or base salary plus commission. Of course, details are discussed during your trial period (3 months). When funds enter employee's bank account, Wire Transfer Representative's duty is to withdraw cash and process the funds. The main advantage of our services is the shortest possible time within which the client can receive money for the services/goods. If this operation is delayed, our clients are entitled to cancel their contract with us and we suffer financial loss. Therefore, successful applicant must be very responsible and careful! Our company can guarantee $2,500 base salary + 5?ommission for every transaction done. Working with our company guarantee's you a safe relationship and licensed establishment. If you would like to apply to this vacancy and inquire more detailed information, please fill out our online job application via our secure website: http://www.AuditSales.bz/index.php?action=login BEFORE YOU APPLY PLEASE REVIEW THE FULL JOB DESCRIPTION. We'd like to get started as soon as possible, so please complete the online application today. You will also need to take an online interview when applying for this job opening. If you have any questions/issues please replay to this email. -- Sincerely, Susan Collins Hiring Manager 636 Liberty Ave, 2nd Floor, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 USA" Their web address is AuditSales.bz I have not been able to find anything out about these guys, so I'm thinking that is red flag number one right off the bat.... But has anyone encountered these guys before? Wayne Z - I tried doing a domain search and had no luck, although I didn't exactly give it a thorough attempt.. You have confirmed what I needed to know. Kittysue - The funny thing is I never even sent them my resume! I responded to the posting on Craigslist asking for more information about the company/position and I got that in return, but I gave them absolutely no other information. The whole thing threw up so many red flags.
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