College Grad going into the Army for Ranger or Spec Forces?
Hey People, I'm in my final yr of college with a undergrad degree in Economics and thinking of joining the military when I graduate. I've talked to the recruiter and I would like to get your opinion. I'm 21 now, 6'3 210 lbs. jacked up and runner etc. I can run 2 miles on average of 10 1/2 mins, bang out the 100 sit ups in 2 and do about 85 pushups in 2 mins. What I am worried about is the "promises" the recruiter makes. I went to talk with him and asked what would I want to do when I graduate college. I told him I would like to do Ranger or Spec Forces. He gave me a practice test and I got an 86 and he said I should do fine on the real test which is coming this week. He told me if I perform well on the test I would go in as an E-4 and go to Boot camp, then Airborne then go to Ranger school then from there they would decide upon my Spec Force opportunities. Basically this guy made it sound not as hard as it would seem and made it sound relatively easy.
Asked By: john m - 6/15/2007
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Wow, a lot of advice here. Some good, some bad. MSG J seems to have the best answer regarding the Ranger vs SF stuff. Personally I recommend the 18X (Special Forces - Initial Entry MOS) way. I have gotten nothing but positive feedback from the field ever since they implemented that program... More
Answered By: Joe D - 6/16/2007
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It will be no cakewalk...the toughest part will be how well mentally you handle stress...I have seen in Basic training men your build/size crying for their mothers at night while trying to go to sleep...the will try to break you... More
Answered By: Snuppy1 - 6/15/2007
You can enlist directly into Special Forces MOS 18 Series in the Army. Your rank upon successful completion will be E-6 (SSG). You may attend Ranger school Operational Tempo (OPTEMPO) and deployments permitting. There are also a myriad of other schools you will be able to attend... More
Answered By: Shawn J - 6/15/2007
Something is not right with that story. Its one thing to go to OCS and achieve rank right away, But listen, being in good shape won't guarantee you jack! Once they get you in basic things might change and quickly. ANYTHING YOU GET FROM A RECRUITER GET IN WRITING AND HAVE IT NOTARIZED. It can not be guaranteed that you... More
Answered By: grounded - 6/15/2007
Simply put, you're placing too much importance on your physical condition! Important, yes...but far from the mental *HELL* you'll have to endure. There's an old military saying that goes something like "...the Army is tearing me down to build me over again..."
Answered By: braxton_paul - 6/15/2007
It sounds like you're already up to Ranger standards for physical stuff. They DO have problems getting and keeping Rangers who can make the grade. If they promise it to you in the contract, you'll have a pretty good shot at it. The fine print says that if you "fail" to complete basic training in the first shot they... More
Answered By: Nels N - 6/15/2007
As college grad, after basic, you'll usually get the rank of specialist, E-4, or corporal. The Rangers like to take soldiers who have several years of service in the Army, usually in thier mid twenties. You also have to be recommended by your Company Commander, and go through a"pre-ranger" PT test. The recruiter is... More
Answered By: Paul G - 6/15/2007
MSG J has it right for the most part and so does the recruiter for the most part. First there are Special Forces option contract as well as Ranger option contracts, you can apply for either as long as your physically, mentally, and morally qualified to include being granted an interm secret clearance prior to you... More
Answered By: mar036 - 6/15/2007
You sound like you meet physical standards. Here's a test for ya for Ranger School (and you are going to think I am insane), go get one of those SAT test prep guides from your local library. PT the #%$ out of yourself for 30 minutes at a time completely to muscle failure every hour and take only about a 10 minute break... More
Answered By: mye_725 - 6/15/2007
If you've got a degree, become a 2nd Lieutentant through OCS. You'll make way more money, and you lead a Ranger Platoon if you're good enough. And for those of you above, he won't enter as a Staff Sergeant, he'll be an E-4 Specialist, maybe a Corporal... More
Answered By: Kevin N - 6/15/2007
Your recruiter has presented you with the best plan. The 18X contract is a bad idea. Get a few years under your belt first... More
Answered By: John T - 6/15/2007
You sound like a stud and should be ok. Listen to me very carefully though, if he's promising you ranger school, you won't get a chance to go to sf selection if thats what you really want. For sf selection you have to enlist as an 18X, there's also a bunch of additional testing and medical screening you have to go... More
Answered By: abouch66 - 6/16/2007
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