Sorry but i am totally...................
AGAINST ELECTRIC SHOCK COLLARS!!!!!!!
Answered By: smiley face - 9/6/2007 |
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I bought a shock collar for my black lab/golden retriever against all my beliefs cause i was at wits end and i will swear to you it did not work. he still barks and drives me nuts. i cant stand to listen to anymore. i am considering a couple different options like debarking and dog trainer i don't know what his deal is cause he picked up on all the other training we did
Answered By: jennifer s - 9/6/2007 |
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I heard they are good for dogs..
Answered By: Glitzydiva18 - 9/6/2007 |
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A lot of people wouldn't condone the use of Electric Collars however as a very last resort and only where the dog is a danger to others and/or itself i believe they can be useful.
I would only use one on a dog that is a danger by continually running off or that has a habit of snapping at people or other dogs and only then when i had exhausted all other areas of training. Used wrongly they can do harm to your dog and i would suggest seeking professional advice before going down this route.
As an alternative there are squirt collars, these are activated by remote control and squirt the dog with air or water and distracts the dog away from the bad habit. I have a dog that used to like playing rough and would grab your hands all the time with his mouth.....being a big dog this could be quite painful for the human involved by using this type of collar the habit was broken in about a week.
For your information I used to breed German Shepherds and was an Army Dog Trainer in my Teens.
Answered By: HAGAKURE - 9/6/2007 |
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No, I think they're really cruel, not to mention expensive too! you can get a small plug-in device that lets off a high pitched squeal ( humans can't hear it), it takes about a couple of weeks, but the dog will eventually stop excessive barking! Think most of the big pet stores stock them.
Answered By: murphywingedspur - 9/4/2007 |
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I used a shock collar on a Shetland Sheepdog (they are small if you didn't know) and it worked fine. She didn't die, scream in pain, or get shocked constantly. It helped keep her from barking, and oh btw, we did try it on ourselves, it felt like more of a quick static electricity shock than anything else, more to get your attention than to hurt. If you managed to kill your dog or make it scream in pain, you're an idiot because you didn't set it right or got the wrong size. You can lower the shock and sensitivity on most collars.
Answered By: ncremer89 - 9/4/2007 |
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The e-collars are not cruel if used correctly. The amount of correction on these collars can be adjusted to suit the amount of correction the dog needs and the correction is not painful, it is more like an annoyance.
Any training tool can be bad if abused.
I have used them for distance training and for corrective measures, such as barking and for proofing things like a quick recall, perfect heeling, etc. I think ecollars are good for any kind of training.
I think the ecollar is an excellent training tool for teaching the dog and the dog learns very quickly that its behavior caused the shock.
I also think it is better if the dog thinks the behavior caused the correction because you need trust between you and the dog to have a good working relationship and every correction from you damages that trust a bit. Once trust is lost you will never fully gain it back. With ecollars the dog gets to decide not to engage in behaviors that cause the correction. It learns that certain behaviors cause the correction and the dog will do its best to avoid the correction and the trust between you and the dog will not be damaged.
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjXYzhdWoTS9lOBOPCbCbaHty6IX?qid=20070402092713AAHb8J4
My second link is a question Greekman asked and it has a great article, the first link is also a site he also had me read. Greekman is the expert so hopefully he sees your question and answers it.
Answered By: Shepherdgirl - 9/1/2007 |
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Yes.
Yes.
My lab would not stop barking,no matter what.Nothing wrong,she just sits and barks her head off.For nothing more than to hear herself bark.Tried collar that emits a high pitch sound.No results what-so-ever.I am talking NONE STOP barking.
I got a shock collar as the last thing to try.It was and is very effective for my purpose.I fastened it around her neck.She eventually started her bark routine.Barked a few times,the collar zapped.She barked,the collar zapped.She stopped barking!!! Few hours later,the same thing happened.Now she no longer barks in the house.She doesn't wear it when outside.(barking is alright outside) Now,she just has to see the collar and the bad behavior ends.
I was at my wits end as to what to do.Have never had this problem with any other dog.I got her from the pound and she already had this problem.Was tied all the time and I imagine that is how she kept herself company.However,now she has a loving family and is never left outside alone.Never.
Her indoor barking became unbearable!! All were miserable.Now,she and the rest of the family can live in peace. Yes,it does hurt her.But she has learned that she controls what happens and when. She has never associated this collar/zapping with us. These collars are not cheap. The batteries have to be special ordered also.Are not available in stores. I suppose this could be abused,but most animal abusers are dumber than the dog and I doubt the would go to all the trouble to even get one of these collars.
They do come with rubber tips that can be put on the electrodes so they do not shock.
Answered By: peach - 9/1/2007 |
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I think the electric shock collar is very abusive to animals and please dont use it it once killed an animal. i suggest you do not use that collar.And if it was used on a person whoa you dead or hospital!
Answered By: Kimberly V - 8/31/2007 |
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Answered By: MEASIAM - 8/31/2007 |
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My friend bought one as their little dog was barking constantly. They used it once. It must have taught the dog well as not they just have to show him the collar and he won't bark.
Answered By: osopretty - 8/31/2007 |
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They're truly cruel. They are used a lot here in France and I have witnessed a Staffy scream in pain when shocked by one. I was tempted to use one on one of my wayward Newfoundlands until I saw this. My Newf has now been trained by conventional and kind means. If you have a problem then enlist the help of a behavioural expert.
Answered By: fat tart - 8/31/2007 |
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Omg watever you do dont use it in your dog (if thats why you asked)
pleasee dont..!
would you like to use it try it on you first if you like it then use it in your dog
Answered By: fer - 8/31/2007 |
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I've used them, but the missis says they hurt her too much so we've gone back to tying each other up again!
Answered By: noruleschris - 8/31/2007 |
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They can harm dogs because they often are triggered by a dog swallowing not barking poor animal is shocked all day long for swallowing. they are barbaric devices I won't tell you where you can get them because they are not used regularly in training. muzzling a dog is much more humane than shocking a poor animal/ you wear one for a day.
Answered By: katie d - 8/31/2007 |
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I have an invisible fence. I had a large 130lb black lab (he passed a couple of years ago) and a 75 lb yellow lab. Our neighborhood does not allow chain link fences and we could not afford to put up a wooden fence (we have an acre of land). It took about 1 week to train the dogs not to cross the fence. I don't have to use the collars anymore, the dog knows her yard now (it's been 9 years). If she wanders out of the yard, I just show her the collar and she's back in the boundaries. I think it is a great invention! If you have an aggressive dog, however, you will want to post signs "Danger, Dog". If you are talking about the "barking collars", they are a hand held device that you push a button to send a shock to the animal to quiet them down, get them off furniture, out of a room or to keep them in the yard. My neighbor has that kind of collar for their 6 lb dog. They are not powerful enough for large breed dogs. But they are very effective on little dogs. Talk to your vet or local pet store for companies in your area.
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They are battery powered, so they will not kill the animal unless the animal has heart problems. Make sure you talk to your vet before purchasing!
Answered By: DJ's mom - 8/31/2007 |
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My boyfriend bought one of these by mistake, he meant to get one that made a tone. I decided just to see how bad it was, even though we were going to return it. Let me tell you, you do that, and you would never want it on your dog to wear it. It was just on my hand so I can imagine what its like on the dog's neck.
Plus, you watch the instructional video and see how it warns you to use it only on healthy dogs and may cause seizures in dogs with medical problems. No Thank You Very Much!
Instead look into the tone machines or collars. They don't correct your dog with pain. Instead they make a tone that gets their attention and corrects them that way.
Answered By: skye_blue_05 - 8/31/2007 |
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I was told that you can also get a collar that sprays a citrus fragrance that works just as well with out hurting the dog.
apparently dogs don,t like the smell of it
Answered By: wozzy - 8/31/2007 |
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They are very useful if you know how to use them PROPERLY.
Especially can be helpful for handicapped people.
I used it for a month on one of my dogs.
Money best spent.
ANY device when used by an ignorant may harm your dog.
Google for "tri- tronics"
Late Entry : sorry morons, but I think I've explained myself correctly.
Answered By: tony l - 8/31/2007 |
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I use them on my wife , when i say them , i mean two , one on her neck , to chastise her for being naughty, and one on her leg if she tries to run away..
Answered By: Crazy_crow - 8/31/2007 |
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Ouch!! They really hurt! Ouch!!!! Stop it!!!
Answered By: S - 8/31/2007 |
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I recently asked a question about electric shock collars as my neighbour uses one on his dog. I've heard it yelping in pain and I've seen it jump in the air when getting a shock .I found it very disturbing and would never use it on any dog of mine.Kindness and rewards are the only method I would use in training a dog, it may take a long time but you will have a friend for life who will never fear you.
Answered By: Grodno - 8/31/2007 |
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I think they are horrible, vile things. I would never use one, but I darn sure would like to hang one of those things on people who do use them on their dogs. Dogs bark a lot because they are lonely, miserable, frustrated and desperate. Anyone who has a dog suffering from any of these, shouldn't have a dog, period.
In over thirty years sharing my life with multiple dogs, I have never had a persistent barker. Our dogs only bark on very specific occasions... to express joy when they are being taken out for a ride in the pick-up, or we're going out in the yard for a rousing game of Ballie. And, to be expected, when some stranger is at the gates. I need them to do that. I didn't just get amazingly lucky with the dozens of dogs my husband and I have had in our lives. We raised them with love and caring, so that they never had any reason to bark incessently because of owner neglect, or the frustration of being left tethered in the yard, or alone for long hours because the person who has taken responsibility for them is just not there most of the time.
Dogs aren't just "live things" that you have to remember to feed and water, and you train to do stupid tricks to make your friends laugh. They are living, breathing, feeling emotional beings with totally the same needs that we ourselves have. To think of them, or treat them any less than that is incomprehensible.
Answered By: sharmel - 8/31/2007 |
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We love our Inotech Train & Contain system for keeping our two dogs in the yard and for occassionally correcting our pointer's behavior. This system has a remote with four levels of shock and usually the first or second level is enough to make the pointer listen (we use it in the car since she goes absolutely nuts when people walk by). The system also gives a warning tone before it shocks so most the time we don't even have to do more than the tone. The dogs have never screamed in pain and my husband has accidently shocked himself on the highest level so he knows what it feels like. We only use the remote training system to curb our pointer's more aggressive behavior in the car, not for every little thing, and have never felt the need to use anything besides the warning tone on our golden.
Answered By: Meems - 8/31/2007 |
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My father breeds beagles and lives in the city so barking gets the neighbors riled. (He usually only kennels 3 or 4 outside) He got a shock collar that would zap them when they would bark. It was very effective. He uses it long enough to train them to not bark and then takes it off when they are trained. They do not nuisance bark but will bark if someone approaches their yard.
On the flip side though I feel that if used wrong they can cause aggression. There was a dog yesterday at the pet park, where I take my Sophie to play, that was very aggressive. I never saw a lab raise it's fur before or try to mount everything in sight like that one did. I overheard the owner say "I should have brought the shock collar, he would so be getting zapped right now!" I was so angry. No wonder the dog was so crazy! I thought to myself, "get your lazy butt up off the bench and pull him off my dog!" She should have pulled him off and taken him home if he could not behave. Instead I was the one that had to leave because he would not leave her alone and she was lazy and irresponsible. I do not feel that it is the best way to train your pet in every situation. I think it is a good idea for nuisance barking and training them to stay in the yard. But once they are trained take it off of them! It served it's purpose. (You can adjust the strength so it does not hurt. My father tests it on his hand before he puts it on the dog.)
Answered By: Lisa B - 8/31/2007 |
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They are cruel. Inhumane. Barbaric.
It's for people who don't understand dogs and people who believe in a quick fix.
Dogs respond well to positive reinforments (just like all animals including human beings) and what they learn through this training method, although it requires patience and time and committment , they carry with them for life.
Shock collars would only make them more frightened of life and living and frightened dogs become problem dogs.
When dogs do things you don't want them to do, a simple verbal correction is more than enough. Efforts should be spent on rewarding good behaviour, not the other way around.
Answered By: balgownie34 - 8/31/2007 |
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They are abusive, inhumane and wrong. I would NEVER use them.
Answered By: kennysprettylittlewifey(KST) - 8/31/2007 |
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I would consider it inhumane. A dog would be scared to death of it and of you as their master. Not a good way to treat your best friend.
Answered By: dogsrspcl - 8/31/2007 |
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Used properly by someone who understand what types of behavior they are going to get results for the collar is a wonderful training tool.
They are not good in all situations. They do not fix problems but help get immediate control over a situation and then you work and train the dog.
They are a good tool one of many good tools when properly used.
Answered By: tlctreecare - 8/31/2007 |
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I reckon thick people who dont have the ability to control animals use them as they are too stoopid to read and learn about training...I think the K.C is trying to ban them for that reason among others.........
Answered By: Buttsmear - 8/31/2007 |
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I like shock collars personally (especially for big, stubborn dogs that can be a danger to themselves outside). But shock collars are extraordinarily expensive and I wouldn't recommend them to just everybody. You really shouldn't be messing around with them unless you know what you're doing.
Answered By: Mario - 8/31/2007 |
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I don't understand why so many people view the e-collar, chain choke and pinch collar as some sort of torture device.
Used properly, these training tools are designed to signal the dog - not hurt him.
Different dogs react differently to various stimuli. It's important that a trainer determine which training tool(s) work best in his training regimen with a specific dog.
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Of the people I see frequently on the YA dog forum, greekman, probably knows the most about training with e-collars.
Answered By: Ginbail - 8/31/2007 |
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I did consider them when i thought about it proper i decided against .my dog is maybe a little spoilt if we have sunday lunch she has a bit etc if kids are naughty do they get electric shock treatment no they dont and so i woudnt wish this on my dog a simple smack and a firm no does the trick you get no where torturing your dog disipline is a big thing but there are right and wrong ways of dealing with it
Answered By: donna k - 8/31/2007 |
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NEVER USE THEM!
-the more it shocks the dog, the brain cells they loose
-the more brain cells they loose, the shorter their life gets
-the shorter their life gets, the sooner they DIE
Answered By: marisa s - 8/31/2007 |
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