How would you deal with illegal aliens, other than deportation?
Serious responses only. As much as I'd like to say "deport", we ARE America and we are capable of forgiveness. Besides forcibly moving 20 million people out of the country is prohibitively expensive. The egg cannot be unscrambled. So, after considering the needs of the legal residents and those of the affected criminals, I propose the following alternative to more Congressional BS. 1. Troops come home from overseas and begin being stationed on our Northern and Southern borders, with the coasts and ports covered by Navy, Coast Guard, and the Port Authorities. All will be backed up by Air Forces. 2. Not a fence, but motion sensors, infrared, and other technologies in order to monitor the extremely vulnerable southern border. 3. All illegal residents that do not turn themselves in will be deported and never allowed back in. 4. All illegal residents that turn themselves in will sign documents and submit to criminal background checks and the proper screening process. 5. All illegal residents that accept the following plea deal may stay. 6. Those accepting the plea deal will be assigned a government ID card and special social security number. Their employers will take a portion of their pay and return it to the state government to cover the social cost of illegal immigration, fraud, Identity theft; welfare, grants, and health care they have been accessing but not paying for. 7. Those accepting the plea deal realize that if they commit a felony, they will be deported after paying their debt to society. 8. Those accepting the plea deal realize they are not entitled to social security, and will not have the right to vote. However, those under the age of 16 will not incur this penalty. 9. They formally apologize to the United States of America and also THANK US for our leniency and forgiveness. They will sign an affidavit declaring that at no future date will they attempt to collect social security, and never vote. 10.In return, we will allow them to stay, ensure that they get adequate pay (as they will be subject to minimum wage laws). 11. The minimum wage for those receiving amnesty will remain the same, and the cost of the penalty will be added to their pay, thus the employer (who had committed a crime by hiring illegal workers) must cover this cost, ensuring those that want minimum wage will receive minimum wage. Alternatively, if the worker is afraid the wage increase will cost them their job, they can sign a form accepting the penalty themselves, ensuring their jobs. Suggested income penalty is an additional 10% state income tax. This tax will be used exclusively for the social cost of medicine to illegal residents incurred by the states. 12. Those who are employed are required to learn English to a very basic standard within 5 years or be deported, and must pass a citizenship test within 6 months. Would you agree this is a fair deal? Do you disagree with amnesty altogether? Do you have a counter-proposal other than systematic deportation of all lawbreaking aliens? Richard. Ancient History. What happened before I was born is something I am not responsible for. You cannot pin guilt or crimes upon me I did not commit. You COULD accuse me of crimes I ACTUALLY committed. In this nation, we are not penalized for the crimes of our forefathers. And YES, I am partially native American. So blow it out your nose. Great answers: Cafe and netjr. Kerry- Nah, I disagree. That's just plain evil. I'm looking for justice, not vengeance. Jake- same flawed argument as the other poster. I personally committed no crime. You CANNOT hold people responsible for the crimes of their ancestors. And again, part native myself. So I say good day to you, sir. Ronko- did you even read the question? It's right there in black and white... how would you deal with lawbreakers other than deportation? This is an amnesty question. Read before commenting. Piszj- I had a similar thought. And it would be a good "fall back" position. And systematic deportation slowly but surely a good "plan C". However, I do think American values would favor forgiveness first for those who honestly are just here to work and raise a family. I agree, they committed a crime, but there should be other options. I think this plan is better, but I do thank you for your answer. Burger- thanks! Joan- agreed. US citizens- uhhhhh evil much? Sorry I really dont like that answer. Actually I'm not sorry at all.
Asked By: askthepizzaguy - 9/9/2007
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Ok and who is going to do the jobs they do now if they are Deported ? Employers will be forced to pay alot more for someone picking there crops or cooking your food at restaurants you enjoy or building your house and just about everything else you like. so i guess you wont mind paying 10 or 20 % more for things making... More
Answered By: Ronko - 9/9/2007
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Good grief. Why do all you newbies make this out to be so complicated. Just stop the incentive to come her illegally, shut down the employers and its over....geeesh!
Answered By: ~*Lucky*~ - 9/9/2007
What are you from? native American? Do you live in an Indian reservation? are this "proposed ideas" will be applicable in your family ? well, just in case you're not a native American... More
Answered By: Richard - 9/9/2007
1. Give us 200 hours of labor building a wall between Mexico and the US for I don't think a fence is good enough, 12 million people giving us 200 hours should be able to build a 1900 mile long wall... More
Answered By: netjr - 9/9/2007
I don't disagree with amnesty all together... More
Answered By: cafegroundzero - 9/9/2007
No amnesty of any kind. We need our troops where they are. Motion sensors would be a good idea, but with auto-fire weapons that detect and track movement based on the heat signature of a human. Seed the river with man eating fish. To root out the illegals, just put a bounty on them. Even if n o one gets turned in, the... More
Answered By: kerry k - 9/9/2007
I think your plan sounds very reasonable.You should sbmit it for Senate approval. I also think something along the lines of a Probation or Parole Official should oversee many who are kind of iffy.No records but ties to unsavory groups.And if they still continue those ties they get deported whether they came when they... More
Answered By: Millicent R - 9/9/2007
yes iam agaist amnesty and we dont have to deport them all at once we can deport them little by little i mean say if another 12 million are so come in are we going to say ow just let them stay because there to expensive to deport if we are worried about the cost we shouldnt let them stay.... i mean to me thats whats... More
Answered By: sexy black bitch - 9/9/2007
if you think about it anybody here now including you would have to register and if you commit a felony you get deported back to where ever your ancestors came from .if your not native American your an illegal alien i doubt the Indians wanted us here. and as far as the incentive for cheap labor and a better life lets... More
Answered By: jake - 9/9/2007
fine people that employee illegals and make it big, fine people who rent them houses and apt. make it big. If we do this they will leave. no money no jobs no house no stay.
Answered By: PiszJ@aol.com - 9/9/2007
I like your idea..
Answered By: Burgerlover - 9/9/2007
Never fly, too many requirements on people who are getting by for free now. The illegals themselves wouldn't agree to that... More
Answered By: US Citizens First - 9/9/2007
The illegals are a huge problem for America--Some say 20 million, some say 12 million, do the math in twenty years, I shudder to think about it. We could start with the illegals in jail and prison, deport them, then make it tough on those who employ the illegals. We seem to find the money for everything else except... More
Answered By: Joan J - 9/9/2007
A noble idea,but no.We could finance the deportations by turning down the public assistance checks these leeches receive every month.And crackdown on employers so hard,they wont even think about hiring/keeping an illegal on the payroll.It really is that simple.Those that use invalid social security numbers should pay... More
Answered By: putnuck - 9/9/2007
They do not belong here! They are lawbreakers. Not only are they a burden on the taxpayer, but we do not even know who all is in this country. So they are also a national security threat. A threat to the safety of our people! I am not only talking about Mexicans here but people from other countries who slip over our... More
Answered By: smokersmaxnickydaisy - 9/9/2007
Let me say in advance how wonderful it is to meet someone like you. Please send me your money, home, car, possessions, your job, and any other assets you may have - oh, and of course you must change your holidays, language, your way of thinking, your politics, your views on children, society, and accept without... More
Answered By: yars232c - 9/9/2007
Your fix is way too complex. You also are missing a big part of the issue... More
Answered By: dunkadoo_plunkus - 9/9/2007
I like your idea except for 2 things. I think after they are citizens they should be allowed to vote. Also you should be able to collect social security if not then they shouldnt have to pay into it. And the penalty should be for a set period of time. IF someone is here illegally for 2 years and then become legal they... More
Answered By: <Carol> - 9/9/2007
Some good theories there... More
Answered By: AveGirl - 9/9/2007
We have 9 guest worker programs including 1 for agriculture. They could have applied at any time. They don't want to be Americans, just work under the table and collect welfare.
Answered By: dianer - 9/9/2007
Too many flaws with your plan to make it work... More
Answered By: jonn449 - 9/9/2007
SHOOT THEM ALL AND HAVE THERE BODIES ON THE BORDER AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU COME ACROSS ILLEGALLY. AND I AM SERIOUS. WHY CAN'T WE USE THE CRIMINAL THUGS TO PICK THE FRUIT MY TAX DOLLARS ARE ONLY MAKING THEM STRONG AND SMART THUGS WHEN THEY GET OUT OF JAIL
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