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What is the role of Doctors in rising U.S. Health care cost?

What are your thoughs about doctors in USA healthcare

Do you think they get paid a lot, not enough, just right... ?

Are actions taken by Doctors both directly and indirectly(procedures, ordering lab results, prescriptions,) are causing an increasing in heathcare cost, or protecting the patients.

Do Doctors care more about their Patients or their Pockets?
I agree that Doctors don't get paid enough and that they don't contribute to rising healthcare cost... altough some minority doctors are involved in Insurance fraud.

, but i heard many Liberals think doctors get paid a lot, wanted to hear some of their reasoning.

Asked By: Gator - 1/10/2008
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OK there are a few crooks out there, but the vast majority of docs are working themselves to death. The AMA has done things like recommend they REDUCE their work week to 55-60 hours (Adams, “Doctor morale shaky as practice stressors surge,” 15 January 2007, ama-assn.org). (Save America, Save the World by by Cassandra Nathan p. 120)

When you look at how competitive med school is, how many years of study it takes, their student loans (not dischargeable even in bankruptcy, and YES, MDs can go bankrupt), the malpractice premiums, the overhead if they have their own practice, etc. it's a wonder we have doctors.

"Doctors graduate medical school with huge student loans. (The Student Doctor Network says that 2006 graduates of medical school graduate typically owing $130K or more). " (Save America p. 124)

If you figured out their actual pay PER HOUR after all the expenses you can make more in OTHER fields that are a lot less stressful and take little schooling. "Parade magazine 2007’s article noted that the median income for a family practice doctor is $161,000." (Save America, p. 124).

"Payments to physicians who provide service are routinely negotiated to cheap levels for the insurer. In fact, according to Regina Herzlinger, though the income of technicians and professional workers rose between 1995 and 2003, when adjusted for inflation, the doctors’ income dropped 7 percent (“Who Killed U.S. Medicine?,” 25 July 2007, washingtonpost.com). "
Save America, Save the World p. 120.

Believe me, I could add more--Nathan does it in her book. Oh, and I'm not a doctor, don't have doctor buddies or family, etc. I just like things to be reasonable and ripping off the people who do the lion's share of the work is WRONG.

As to what the doctor orders, SOME do practice "defensive medicine." That's not really their fault--individuals like John Edwards and his junk science claims of doctor caused CP cause that problem.

The two villains in the health care mess we have are the government (BS regs, their special "programs," and more) and the handful of large insurers who run roughshod over doctors, patients, and taxpayers. Here's PART of an article that speaks the truth and it's NOT just about United Health Care either as the doctor points out:
"While growing into a colossus, UnitedHealth has repeatedly failed to perform its basic job of paying medical bills. UnitedHealth, which covers 70 million Americans, has been sanctioned in nine states for paying claims slowly; shortchanging doctors, hospitals, or patients; or poorly handling complaints and appeals.
One Nebraska woman complained to state regulators that UnitedHealth's computers had incorrectly rejected claims related to her son's surgery six times.
At one point, UnitedHealth owed Dr. George Schroedinger, an orthopedic surgeon, $600,000. He and his clinic sued UnitedHealth of the Midwest in 2004.
Deciding for the clinic, U.S. District Judge Stephen Limbaugh of Missouri declared that the company's claims processing systems were "flawed in many ways, denying, reducing, and improperly processing claims on a regular basis. And despite innumerable requests, United was unwilling to remedy the underlying errors in its systems" (Star-Tribune Dec. 12, 2007).
Payment troubles continued after the verdict, and Dr. Schroedinger filed a second lawsuit. "These people can never get it right, which says to me that they just plain lie," he said in an interview.
Failure to pay isn't the only complaint. The insurer also gives incorrect information on which physicians are in its network, creating enormous problems for physicians' staff.
The AMA said that no other insurer has prompted as many complaints as UnitedHealth about abusive and unfair payment practices. AMA officials have met with UnitedHealth executives 16 times since 2000, with little to show for it.
"They have always got a new plan to fix it," said Dr. William G. Plested III, past president of the AMA. But "nothing ever happens."
It seems to us that this case is just the tip of the insurance iceberg. More and more stories are appearing daily in the news media about how insurance company are instructing employees their jobs are to deny claims and/or delay payments.
With such a high percentage of medical premiums and other costs going to the legal profession, to maintain compliance with endless government rules/regulations and being hoarded by the insurance companies and executives — is it any wonder medical costs are increasing so dramatically?
It's time to take a closer look at the medical insurance companies.
UnitedHealth Group is not the first medical insurance company to rob patients, hospitals and clinics to pay obscene salaries to their executives.
It's a modern day robbing patients to pay pimps.
Michael Arnold Glueck, M.D., comments on medical-legal issues and is a visiting fellow in economics and citizenship at the International Trade Education Foundation of the Washington International Trade Council.
Robert J. Cihak, M.D., is a senior fellow and board member of the Discovery Institute and a past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
http://www.newsmax.com/medicine_men/medical_insurance/2008/01/03/61543.html"

Read what I didn't paste down. All doctor-bashers should HAVE to read that entire article. Time some truth was told.
Answered By: heyteach - 1/10/2008
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Not much. Most of the high costs of US Health care involve administrative costs.
Answered By: Forget War Buy More - 1/10/2008
My Dad's a doctor, so is my husband, grandfather, aunt and two uncles . . . they don't get paid enough. It's the health insurance companies and the liability insurance companies that dictate what a doctor gets paid.

Your liberal theory is idiotic . . . we are all liberal.
Answered By: CHARITY G - 1/10/2008
The reason health care is through the roof is because of mal practice insurance.my friend is a surgeon and his insurance costs him almost 200,000 a year.he has never been sued,this is average across the board.the law suits settlements are outrageous.this is why some of it is out of control .but not all of it.when you live in a sue happy society .this is coming out of every ones pocket.we wont even get into the attorney;s
Answered By: whip - 1/10/2008
That majority of heath care cost are administrative. What a doctor can bill is limited by a set of standards. Usually a range of what the acceptable cost are for various services.

Doctors are generally in practice to help patients. They are bound by oath and and deviation from this oath will result in them loosing their license to practice medicine.
Answered By: smedrik - 1/10/2008
I think alot of it has to due with the cost of malpractice insurance. There are some very silly suits filed and rather than spending the money to fight it they pay because it is cheaper but it raises the cost to the doctors. There are also many added costs for administration and as far as the tests and such they are needed to rule out alot of what they are being sued for. If they treat you for one thing and it is something else and they did not run the labs to determine it that also opens them up to law suits.
Answered By: debbie f - 1/10/2008
Doctors aren't hurting financially but much of what they do, and what we end up paying for is to protect themselves from lawsuits, something else we can thank the lawyers for. Another thing is the huge amount we pay to provide care to people who don't have insurance, ( even though they have jobs, in many instances fairly good ones, but they still can't afford to go and get individual coverage ) and either end up paying only a small part of their bill (and maybe having to end up filing for bankruptcy), or pay nothing at all, and much of all of this is due to one thing, putting more money in the CEO,
of the company who used to provide health insurance pocket, period. Another thing is the illegals soaking up billions and billions and put nothing into the system, and people who come here from other countries to be treated then just return home and stick us with the bill, this last example is much more widespread than anyone realizes, I have a family member in the medical field and she told me about this years ago and nothing has been done about it, in part I'm sure because they don't want to get sued, ( thank you again lawyers!!! ). I have a question does anybody think we should send the bill for all this to the lawyers, or maybe the American Bar Association?
Answered By: booboo - 1/10/2008
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