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How many people hate living in Northeast Ohio as much as me?

Everyone is entitled to his or her opinions. I try to stay to the facts. I have lived in Cleveland al my life and absolutely, without a doubt hate it more than any combination of words can describe. There are many things to love, but far too many that outweigh those items.
- As a single man, unless you are a huge sports fan your only real options are to hang out in bars 7 months out of 12 or go online to meet people because the weather here is about as desirable as getting a huge kick in the nads. If you are anything other than a Cleveland fan or Ohio State fan, don't even bother showing your face in any of the locales without preparing for some sort of ignorant, or physical confrontation with some low-life s*****g that forms their whole existence around our sports teams.....Heaven forbid their team loses a game - these guys let it effect their whole day or week to follow.....like the win or loss will pay their mortgage or move them ahead in life in the least.
- As a married man with no kids you have your choice of only a few cultural activities before your only form of recreation is to go to the bar, go to the movies, go out to eat, or sit on your couch and watch television....unless you truly enjoy walking or driving in extreme cold, extreme wind, rain, snow, mud, construction, etc. For maybe 4 to 5 months out of 12 you can visit the Metroparks...doesn’t cost anything and is beautiful in the good months (roughly 1/3 of the year).
- As a divorced man, please refer to "as a single man"
- As a re-married man with children, this place sucks just the same. After visiting the few places that do offer culture to a younger generation, your back to spending time in your home in front of the television, or spending money to escape the city (state) to go on vacations to places that offer more cultural places and things than here.
- As a younger person nowhere near retirement, this town is (literally) on of the poorest, rundown cities in the nation.
- We originated and grew as a steel city, an importer, exporter, a manufacturing city, and a city of industry. Now there is hardly anything left of that stuff. But WOW, we have the Rock Hall...such a great "bragging right" that more times than not when they have induction ceremonies, they don't even hold the ceremony here in the city! How pathetic.
Then there's the musical talent that is truly endless here, that leaves town to be noticed somewhere else because no one will ever see or notice anyone in this ghost town.
I know I will be chastised for my comments by others who absolutely love this place, but to each their own. All I can tell you is that if I did not own my own company and have children I do not want to uproot out of their school and surroundings, my wife and I both would be out of here in a flash. I have dedicated money and time purchasing investment properties out of state to have an "insurance policy" for when that time comes I can say goodbye to this place once and for all.
Keep in mind as I type this the temperature is roughly 10 degrees with a wind chill of -15 and snow everywhere. Hmmmm maybe I can go skiing...I think not. Maybe take the bike out for a cruise...not really. So you see, this city is one extreme or another as far as weather. A true outdoors person will agree the winter is stifling cold and the summers are either raining or severely hot.
If I am missing something, let me know. Maybe I need special glasses and the sky is truly not grey and gloomy more than half the year, maybe the trees are actually green most of the year, maybe I am missing the parts of the newspaper that display the economical growth and terrific job market here.
Good points.....Rock Hall to visit, The art / history / science museums, Orchestra, Playhouse Square. Basically things you can do over a few-day vacation and enjoy, only to leave and never have to return here again
I appreciate all the responses....funny as it may seem to read my rant, I guess I am just not a cold, gloomy - weather person....this place can really get to you after a while. I would like the convenience of throwing on a t-shirt and going outside at will any time of the year without getting bunddled up like a marshmallow.
To boot, my job involves me being outside all day every day.....now that really sucks 7 months out of 12.

Asked By: The Butcher - 2/10/2008
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Sweetie trust me I hate it more than you do. I love what you wrote. You made some great points. I have lived in many places but Northeast OH. takes the gag cake! I agree Cleveland has enough to do on a 4 day vacation...maybe.
People here care more about sports than just about anything. I have come to the conclussion that must be all they really have. Yes I as well have a business that caters to the sports industry. Thank Goodness I can at least make money from these Cleveland Fans. I will never understand why they think they are a suburb of Columbus. This hero worship of the Scarlet and Gray is sickening. Maybe it is the lack of sun!
Maybe they just do not get enough sun here.
They also procrastinate with everthing. I love the Rock Hall and I think it sucks that the induction ceremony is not here...Now what does that say...The Rock Hall is here but all the festivities are in New York. Oh yes there will be NE OHIO lovers who will rant and rave and state 10 reasons why Cleveland Rocks! If Cleveland Rocked Halle Berry would be the weather girl and Drew Carey would own the Indians!!
God forbid the Sports bandwagon of Cleveland interferes with your life. They are all over the sports but God help them...When one of the Cleveland teams lose they never mention the loss. They live and die by how the team of the season is doing. Curse or no curse who cares.
Suburbanites will tell you Cleveland Rocks but they refuse to live there. They live in Solon or Westlake but never Cleveland.
I saw a youtube video about Asteve Thomas. It is so sad to see the distruction hey but Ohio State is going to a BSU title game, the Indians are in the Playoffs, the Browns have improved to win more games then the Bengals and well as long as Cleveland has Lebron they will win. This is a pathetic nast mean deplorable place. Some descriptives of Cleveland
Nasty, Rude, Pathetic,sports obsessed, unkind, I could go on......Have a good one and please know I hear you!
Answered By: weewab - 2/17/2008
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All in all i like living here. the only thing i hate about northeast ohio is the winter weather... it can be horribly cold outside one day then a few hours later its about 50 degrees and sunny. give it a day then its back to a blizzard. lol
Answered By: J.P. H - 2/17/2008
WHAT R U TALKING ABOUT!!!??? I ♥ NE OHIO!!!!!!! ive moved around a lot....ive even lived in other countries...but NE Ohio is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Answered By: pb - 2/16/2008
Yeah where is this global warming we have been hearing so much about?? Cleveland isnt the greatest but go to Buffalo, Detroit, or Pittsburg, you'll be missing Cleveland in no time. But sounds like you need some couch time with a good DR. Come on dude, when life give you lemons make some lemon-aid.
Answered By: Jake M - 2/16/2008
This really isn't an answer but I found your question funny. It's amazing how many people I talk to who feel the same way you do. :-D
Answered By: tazgirl - 2/16/2008
I've lived in Cleveland for 7 years and love it...but this is coming from someone who grew up in a podunk farming village with a population of about 6,000...and if you were a single gal your only options were to hang out in bars 7 months out of 12 and the other 5 you had the choice to hang out in bars or visit THE COUNTY FAIR to meet guys. Not so cool. The weather sucks everywhere in Ohio, trust me. At least in Cleveland, when bad weather hits, the roads get plowed and salted more than ONCE A WEEK. And if you want to visit cool places (like the Rock Hall, Tower City, Science Center, Metroparks, Botanical Garden, Zoo, Cedar Point, any one of X# of nightclubs in Downtown) with your kids/family/friends you don't have to drive 2-3 hours to get to one. Plus during spring, summer, and fall you're close enough to the lake that you can go boating, kayaking, fishing, swimming (if you dare! :-D ). I think there is plenty of stuff to do around here...I'm never bored. But the winter IS long, and dreary, and gloomy...
Answered By: Bex - 2/15/2008
Hahahahahaha
Thank you
You put it in such a way i never couldve...me being a woman and all but still it was great.
Sorry your so bummed but you are right this "city" does suck ive lived here 35 years and truth be told its all pretty much alcoholics and sports bums. Not that theres anything wrong with that ...for them anyway. I desire more out of life, and it certainly isnt in Cleveland. The winters arent so bad if you dont mind being out in the freezing bitter biting cold sure.
The summers are wonderful if you like walking around breathing through a hot wet sponge. Whats not to like? LOL

Take heart my freind you have out of state investments and will be able to escape...keep on planning, and do you have room in your suitcase for me?
Answered By: Tweek - 2/14/2008
Sounds like a bad case of cabin fever. You mention a lot of really good things in Cleveland. But yeah it can get old after a while. Look on the bright side.
-In a few more weeks we will be done with the worst of the winter, February is always the worst month of the year.
-The art museum is doing a huge expansion, so their will be something new to do really soon.
As far as the economy, well you said you grew up here so you know, it's a rust belt city and it's going to take the administration a lot of time and hard work to pull the city out of it's slump.
If I were you and you can afford it, why don't you take the family on a vacation to somewhere warmer next year. Just getting away for a long weekend in the winter can really help you get through it. Can't do it myself but I wish I could.
A few more weeks my friend.
Answered By: Matthew D - 2/14/2008
Dude...if you don't like it here....it's easy....MOVE.....don't let the door hit ya either!

I have lived in Summit county all my life and love it! :-)
Answered By: motorcyclemama - 2/14/2008
"don't even bother showing your face in any of the locales without preparing for some sort of ignorant, or physical confrontation with some low-life s*****g that forms their whole existence around our sports teams.....Heaven forbid their team loses a game "


*laughs...then begins to weep*
Answered By: n_icoles ♥BMSD Stilettos♥ - 2/13/2008
There are many good school districts.....shaker heights....
Answered By: Wii Game Help - 2/13/2008
Sounds about right. We are from the West coast and d**n was moving here a shock. It is rather depressing and can't wait to leave. 6 months down, 2 1/2 years to go!!
Answered By: Me - 2/12/2008
Your question is one of the funniest I have ever read. And I don't really have an answer, but I would like to think that even in
the most backward cities there is still hope for some happiness.
Answered By: Limbonia - 2/12/2008
I love northeast ohio! i live in a suburb and it is great! everyone is so kind and helpful! the public highschool has once many awards! cedar point is fantastic! my grandma owns a lake house up there so we go visit and u can see the dragster from the beach! the cleveland metroparks are beautiful and fun if you like to golf! cleveland is great also! there is soooo much to do! and not everyone likes the sports teams where i live! people like the packers and steelers. and they can still can still show their face! its a family friendly part of the u.s. and a lot of people dont see that way!
Answered By: Christie K - 2/11/2008
Dude, we should seriously hang out and commiserate. I just moved here, and as a single girl transplant, it is IMPOSSIBLE to meet people/find things to do. Everyone seems to have made their friends in kindergarten and don't know how to open up their circle and let new people in. And don't even suggest the online dating thing, I've had too many friends tell me horror stories about their experiences with creeps from those forums.

The icing on the cake for me was at a meeting for work last week when we were talking about where we live and would our boss ever want to relocate there. "City 1?" someone asked. "Oh, yeah, I love City 1!" "How about City 2?" asked the next person. "Yes, City 2 is great!" Well, he gets through 8 of our 9 regions before I ask, "What about Cleveland?" He turns to me with a look of utter disgust on his face and says - in all seriousness - "Oh GOD no! I would NEVER move to Cleveland." This from the guy who sold me on how great and awesome and wonderful it is. Classic. Yeah, Cleveland is awesome.
Answered By: Sweet Suz - 2/11/2008
No I don't hate cleveland, but I no longer wish to live here. Northeast ohio is fille with poverty and just above poverty.
You might be depressed or you might just need to move.
Answered By: godsnoriel - 2/11/2008
I don't like it here that much i live in lake county not much to do when you do everything in ne ohio it is boring to do it all over again it sucks here, i'm gonna move
Answered By: hollywood60068 - 2/11/2008
One must live in the moment grasshopper. It sounds to me like you have some deep seeded hatred issues. Perhaps you should seek professional help. Maybe you need to sit in front of some fluorescent lights to help diminish your SAD.

One technique you could try is cognitive transference. This is when one imagines they are in another place. You could imagine you where in, lets say..... Savannah Georgia or Dallas Texas(go cowboys), for instance. There are many places you can pretend to be.

What about bringing a bunch of snow into the house and melting it down to make a relaxing bath. You could sit in the tub and relax and dream of Savannah Georgia. Well whatever it is, I'm certain you can find a solution to your hatred issues. Best of luck to you !
Answered By: Shnibbles - 2/11/2008
I enjoy NE Ohio!
Answered By: GoBuckeyes! - 2/11/2008
Winters can be dull and depressing, but there are many things to do. Have you toured Stan Hywet in Akron? Be sure to stop by Tangiers while you are in town. Then there is Blossom Music center, very nice in the summer. Cedar Point is one of the best amusement parks in the USA. Have you visited Nelson's Ledges?
It is nice to plan a trip for March somewhere warmer every year. It is something to look forward to, and placate your long wait for more conducive weather that will be coming soon. The USA is filled with wonderful places to see and enjoy. Charlston SC is one of my favorites with it's gardens and plantations in bloom in March. Gatlinburg Tenn is picturesque. Vicksburg Miss is a hidden gem with its civil war history, antebellum B&Bs, and casino boats on the Mississippi.
I have to add to those going to Cedar Point this summer, to stop at the Homestead Inn, just south of the Cedar Point turnpike exit. It is an old historic strawberry farm turned restaurant. Many neat antiques, and a lovely breakfast-dinner menu. We loved stopping there on the way to Cedar Point. I know you will love it as much as we did.
Answered By: K W - 2/10/2008
You sound depressed. You may have that seasonal depression from not seeing the sun in three months.

I have lived in the Cleveland area for seven years and love it here. That said, I grew up in Toledo and I do NOT want to ever live in Toledo again. I also lived in Michigan for a few years. I'm the kind of person that likes to experience new things so the thought of living one place all my life is not pleasing. I think you have to decide that you're going to be happy despite your circumstances. Happiness is a choice. Do you have any hobbies? You can go around being bitter that you feel you have to stay in a place that you don't like because of your business and uprooting your children or you can look for other people similar to you or if you're not a people person other activities. Do you like photography? Carpentry? Building model airplanes? Fish - try keeping some aquariums? Do you play a musical instrument or want to learn to? Maybe take a class that you've always wanted to? Learn a new language? Study martial arts? Astronomy?

I hope that you are only feeling depressed because of the long winter and will snap out of it soon. I think northeast Ohio is a great place to live. The cost of living is low. The traffic isn't horrible. I would rather put up with the winter weather than hurricanes, earthquakes or live in the tornado belt.

Best of luck to you in finding happiness.
Answered By: Momof2 - 2/10/2008
Well thank you for convincing me never to move to northeast ohio! Also you have convinced me that it sucks, so I agree with you.
Answered By: Business Is Good - 2/10/2008
Wow...have you ever visited the wonderful things like the Cuyahoga Valley National Park? They don't have a bar there. Ok, the WInking Lizard in Peninsula. And the greatest Metroparks! What about water sports at the lake? The Art Museum, The Natural History Museum, Health Museum??? Have you taken some classes at any of the colleges we have here, or gone antique shopping down Lorain? And how about Cedar Point??!?!

I've lived in other places, and yes, it's dang cold here right now, but guess what, at least I can afford to live here!

Yep, the schools suck, but as a parent, you're half of their formal education anyway - I've seen stupid kids who have gone to the best schools. My daughter graduated from Rhodes with high honors and 24 college credits before she even graduated HS...it's what you make of it!
Answered By: Empress Jan - 2/10/2008
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I'll be taking Programming HTML in 10th grade (I'm in 9th right now). My school offers Java, C++, Programming HTML, Graphic Communications, Robotics, CAD, and Game Design. I am taking courses not only because I want to fulfill credits, but to also test out some things and see what I like. I'm asking this in Careers because I was wondering what careers involve any of these and if they are good jobs. My cousin got me a little interested in computers because she has her Ph.D from University of Maryland, went to UMBC, taught at Carnegie Mellon, worked at IBM, and currently has a job at Microsoft (she works with human- computer interaction) I was curious, what are some good careers in Computer Science? Are these courses good ones to take to see if I like them? How much can you make in Computer Science careers? None of my decisions for the future are concrete and I do not only look at the money in anything so please, no assumptions unless you know me. I just want to have an idea of what to do and I have plenty of time. I love to help people which is why I am looking into medical careers as well. I'll be taking an AIDS research course in a few years and I'm taking a Child Development course in case I really do wish to be a Psychologist some day (Some other careers I have thought about are Hematologist, Dermatologist, Neurosurgeon, attorney, etc. I really would love to cure my parents who have Sickle Cell and Fibromayalgia but I know how Pharmaceutical Companies are.Treatment makes more than cure) t********s to anyone who can answer and help me out (Point gaming is pretty pointless. Two points vs ten? Which is more?) Thank you! I get good grades. Honor roll, honor student, I study hard and I keep to myself a lot so I have a lot of time to study. I'm cyber schooled because of how awful my old school was (kids bullied me. To the point where I could have died but teachers didn't care because my parents aren't friends with the teachers from high school. So, I just had to suffer. They lied to my parents and eventually, we just couldn't take it anymore. I got sick of defending myself against boys anyway. Thank God I'm into Martial Arts). I have been here for 4 going on 5 years and I love it! Peace and quiet....most of the time. I still live in a small town and the bullying just continues. So I have to be completely alone to escape it. Life will be better when I move to Canada. Also what you do is very interesting! Thank you very much! I can only take HTML this upcoming school year. Then the other courses become available throughout the years. I can't choose whether C++ comes before Java. It's not all available right away. It becomes available grade by grade. I heard people say $70,000 wasn't a good salary before and that really confused me. My cousin makes that much and she traveled to Spain, France, Atlanta and California recently. I think it is all interesting. New tech always did intrigue me and my mother. I'm just dipping a toe in first though. Just in case, when I go to college, my freshman year will be undecided to sit in on some more classes. I'll see what I like, this a lot, Thank you! Oh by the way, the C++ course is actually a C++ AND Java course! It's all in one. That's helpful :)
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