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What was the prayerful process to canonize scripture?

Asked By: Ace of Spades - 4/12/2008
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The two best renditions of the Bible that have had the least amount of change are the King James and the older versions of the Douay Reims, Catholic Bible. The original King James Bible is the Authorized Version of 1611 (AV). This Bible does a good job in translating the ancient Hebrew texts. The King James, Authorized Version is relatively free from bias and is widely accepted by English speaking Protestants.

In Galatians 1:8-9 Paul said not once, but twice, that those that pervert the gospel would be accursed.

The KJV translators were honest in their work. When the translators had to add certain words, largely due to idiom changes, they placed the added words in italics so we'd know the difference. This is not the case with many new translations. All new translations compare themselves to the KJV. Isn't it strange that the new versions never compare themselves to one another? For some strange reason they all line up against one Book--the A.V. 1611. I wonder why? Try Matthew 12:26.

King James went through great efforts to guard the 1611 translation from errors. Please note the following:

1. In 1604, King James announced that fifty-four Hebrew and Greek scholars had been appointed to translate a new Bible for English speaking people. The number was reduced to forty-seven by the time the work formally began in 1607.
2. Rather than working together all at one location, these men were divided into six separate groups, which worked at three separate locations. There were two at Westminster, two at Oxford, and two at Cambridge.
3. Each group was given a selected portion of Scripture to translate.
4. Each scholar made his own translation of a book, and then passed it on to be reviewed by each member of his group.
5. The whole group then went over the book together.
6. Once a group had completed a book of the Bible, they sent it to be reviewed by the other five groups.
7. All objectionable and questionable translating was marked and noted, and then it was returned to the original group for consideration.
8. A special committee was formed by selecting one leader from each group. This committee worked out all of the remaining differences and presented a finished copy for the printers in 1611.
9. This means that the King James Bible had to pass at least FOURTEEN examinations before going to press.
10. Throughout this entire process, any learned individuals of the land could be called upon for their judgment, and the churches were kept informed of the progress.

The Douay-Rheims Bible, also known as the Rheims-Douai Bible or Douai Bible and abbreviated as D-R, is a translation of the Bible from the Latin Vulgate into English. The New Testament was published in one volume with extensive commentary and notes in 1582. The Old Testament followed in 1609–10 in two volumes, also extensively annotated. The notes took up the bulk of the volumes and had a strong polemical and patristic character. They also offered insights on issues of translation, and on the Hebrew and Greek source texts of the Vulgate. The purpose of the version, both the text and notes, was to uphold Catholic tradition in the face of the Protestant Reformation which was heavily influencing England. As such it was an impressive effort by English Catholics to support the Counter-Reformation.

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The English exiles for religious causes, or recusants, were not all Catholic. There were Catholic refugees on the European mainland as well as Puritan, and from the one, as from the other, there proceeded an English version of the Bible. The center of English Catholicism was the English College at Douai founded (in 1568) by William Allen, formerly of Queen's College, Oxford, and Canon of York, and subsequently cardinal, for the purpose of training priests to convert the English again to Catholicism. And it was here where the Catholic translation of the Bible into English was produced.

The passage of Ephesians 1:6=12, in the Douay-Rheims Bible gives a hint of the thorough stylistic editing he did of the text:

That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs and of the same body: and copartners of his promise in Christ Jesus, by the gospel, of which I am made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God, which is given to me according to the operation of his power. To me, the least of all the saints, is given this grace, to preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ: and to enlighten all men, that they may see what is the dispensation of the mystery which hath been hidden from eternity in God who created all things: that the manifold wisdom of God may be made known to the principalities and powers in heavenly places through the church, according to the eternal purpose which he made in Christ Jesus our Lord: in whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

For comparison, the same passage of Ephesians 1:6-12, in the King James Bible:

That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; and to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: to the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, according to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: in whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

As you can readily see, there is no difference between the two scriptures, however, there is a difference between the two Bibles in that the translators of the King James did not include the Apocrypha (found in the Douay-Rheims) because they did believe they were divinely inspired. The belief that they are non-canonical does not preclude them as historically accurate and useful for research into the life and times of people of that day.

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Answered By: gatita - 4/12/2008
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Prayerful? I don't think it was that.

Scripture was all separate books until after the Council of Nicea (325), when Archbishop Athanasios (whose side won the big doctrinal arguments in the Council) was commissioned by Emperor Constantine to create several copies of the Bible--which didn't yet exist in any formal way. Athanasios generally followed the earlier suggestions of Eusebios in choosing which gospels, epistles, acts, apocalyptics, and Jewish texts would be included, and which would be deemed heretical.

The original choices were subject to further changes; the Roman Catholics and others still consult the apocrypha while the Protestants generally use a Bible that wasn't finalized until the 17th century. Then there's the different-still Bible used by the Eastern Orthodox churches, and other ones used by smaller sects.

And the specific content of scripture was changed again and again; it's not unusual for the earliest known copies to contradict one another, or for one of them to have passages crossed out and re-written in a different hand.

Prayerful? As Athanasios and his rival Arias strove for clerical supremacy, having one another imprisoned and having their followers engage in murderous riots, I think prayerful is the wrong description. Political, now...
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