Answered By: Roy H - 8/25/2008 |
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Oh, great! One more conspiracy theory...~sigh~
Answered By: Bride of Jaysus - 8/22/2008 |
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Pulling this right out of that crappy expelled movie are we?
Answered By: Tony AM - 8/22/2008 |
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Simple...they do not have a tolerance for other viewpoints & they strive to surpress freedom of speech, thought & expression. I agree w/your last statement, "If the evidence so strongly favors evolution and homosexuality, why are dissenters punished rather than refuted?"
What are they so afraid of?
Answered By: Chris K - 8/22/2008 |
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Because the "open-minded" professors, scientists, et al. are the most hypocritical, bigoted, morons around. It like when atheists encourage everyone to respect others beliefs and then spend all day ridiculing Christians.
Answered By: ? - 8/22/2008 |
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Yeah, if you have nothing to hide- why not just open the windows?
Answered By: Jack the Giant Killer - 8/22/2008 |
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What ARE you babbling about?
Answered By: The Reverend Soleil - 8/22/2008 |
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Because if the sciencist push it under the bed no one can
question them,,they do not like that,,the truth might come out.
Answered By: elaine 30705 - 8/22/2008 |
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"Further, scientists who have data contrary to the politically correct views on evolution and homosexuality are denied positions, tenure and promotion if they attempt to publish their findings."
I come here fro teh lulz - you are VERY good.
Are you gonna tell me that THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of scientists have somehow signed a pact to LIE about their research?
I think you've been watching too much 'Expelled'; you have automatically believed everything Ben Stein has said; you have FAILED to check his 'facts' (aka blatant LIES); this is a foolish act.
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Answered By: Everard G - 8/22/2008 |
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Greetings,
I am a former research physicist, and I've worked at various academic and government facilities. I will first tell you that I've known and worked for many people of varying degrees of belief, from fundamentalist Christians to militant atheists. I've never observed a rift in the system where either are punished or rewarded for their beliefs, and I've heard some things openly said that are not very scientific. However, in the classroom all these people, regardless of their beliefs, taught exactly what they were supposed to teach in an unbiased manner. They were professional about their jobs, but also had a personal belief they felt they had to uphold.
That being said, there is no answer to your question. I've never personally seen that happened, but I wouldn't say it's impossible. However, we need to be reminded that there are three sides to every story - one party's side, the other party's side, and the truth. We really have no idea of the complexity of the situation or what small and finer details might be. Maybe the professor that didn't get tenure honestly didn't deserve tenure, and when he didn't get it searched for excuses? Perhaps he is telling the truth, who knows? Before we leap to conclusions and condemn an entire field of study, we should attempt to search for the hard facts.
I hope you consider this perspective. Take care.
Answered By: jed s - 8/22/2008 |
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Evolution is a prove fact over and over again,there is no reason to debate constantly when some one says some unproven magic done it
homosexuality is a lifestyle and has nothing to do with evolution,,,if people evolved in to homos we would all die off
Answered By: Arthurlikesbeer - 8/22/2008 |
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Richard Sternberg deceitfully published a paper by Stephen C. Meyer in a peer-reviewed journal (Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington), of which Sternberg was at the time editor.
ALL articles in this journal require peer-review, and he published this pro-ID article in the journal without putting it through the review process, which is (in effect) a falsification of the findings.
Guillermo Gonzalez is an astronomer, and is therefore not professionally qualified to speak about evolution.
His tenure at Iowa State University was denied not because of his pro-ID stance, but because he was failing to attract funding to the department, failing to publish any work, and failing to produce successful students. The Chronicle of Higher Education observed that Gonzalez had no major grants during his seven years at ISU, had published no significant research during that time and had only one graduate student finish a dissertation.
So Sternberg was "punished" for deceitful practices, and Gonzalez was "punished" for being an inadequate academic.
Answered By: gribbling - 8/22/2008 |
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The Washington Post and someone's private blog are not credible sources for the kind of incendiary actions you are suggesting happen within the scientific community. It's equivalent to quoting the National Enquirer on matters of national security. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the reason dissenters are ostracized is because their methods do not meet the criteria for legitimate science and are therefore not worthy of wasting time, money, and energy to dispute their false arguments?
Answered By: justagirl - 8/22/2008 |
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Likely because the "dissenters" are just using pseudo-science to back up bigotry and stupidity.
I mean, seriously, no rational person credits intelligent design as anything other than repackaged creationism, and though you do not specify your stand on homosexuality, it seems pretty clear that you want to advance the christian homophobic hate mongering agenda
Answered By: canada4ever444 - 8/22/2008 |
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Paranoid, uninformed delusions aside, do you think there should be an open, scientific enquiry into whether the Earth is flat?
And as for homosexuality, please drag yourself out of the 1800s and join us here in the twenty-first century.
Answered By: michael c - 8/22/2008 |
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Sounds like someone been getting their facts from other christian's
When scientists reject intelligent design it's because it has already been proven to be stupid & doesn't need to be rehashed.
Answered By: Orestes - 8/22/2008 |
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Evolution is a fact. No amount of lying by the Discovery Institute, no amount of disinformation from trashy movies, no amount of preaching and propaganda from pig-ignorant pastors and no amount of pseudo-science in fraudulent museums is going to make it go away.
There is no controversy. Intelligent design is a set of lies. Creation science is a set of lies. Creationism, whether young Earth or middle aged Earth is a set of lies.
Mene mene tekel upharsin.
These people have been weighed in the balances and found wanting.
Each of the cases promoted by that trashy movie has been reviewed and the facts are public knowledge.
Answered By: Ken E - 8/22/2008 |
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Good examples, and they belie the claim that scientists are completely objective observers. They work in organizations that have political agendas, and those who step afoul of orthodoxy face career-ending consequences.
Sternberg did follow a limited peer review process with another editor of the journal. Having worked for a scientific journal, I know there are some articles not sent out for external review. Had he sent it out, the chances are that it would have been deep-sixed for the crime of heresy.
Gonzalez wrote a textbook and published 68 peer-reviewed articles (see link below), including articles in Nature and Scientific American. I don't know where some answerers get their "facts."
Interestingly, we have arrived at an anti-Galileo culture, where research consistent with the God hypothesis, however well documented, will earn a scholar a quick trip to the inquisition.
Cheers,
Bruce
Answered By: Bruce - 8/22/2008 |
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