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DSLR lenses for my Nikon D40...so confused! ?

Ok, I purchased my Nikon D40 a couple months back for my birthday. I love this d**n thing. I can't seem to put it down. I have come to a point where I feel like I would benefit a lot from a stronger zoom/lense. Looking at either a 70mm-300mm or a 55mm-200mm. I have been shopping around for a while now on the internet and completely confused. If someone could clarify somethings for me that would be great.

1) Is the Vibration Reduction (VR) feature worth paying 2x-3x more than a lense without? because the lens that came with my D40, the 18-55m seems to output extremely crisp photos w/o the VR feature, or maybe it's just my amateur eyes.

2) Besides the material (plastic vs metal) used, what's the main difference between Nikon, Sigma and Telephoto lenses?

3) Besides the material used and VR, why are there $150 and $4000 that have the same zoom strength of ie. 70mm-200mm lenses? What's the main difference/ picture quality.

Finally, can someone suggest an all around, bang for your buck, lens for my D40 that doesn't break the bank but also allows me to take professional pictures, or as close to one as I can. Web links/sites/model #'s all greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Asked By: itsmecasper - 12/10/2008
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1) VR helps more and more as the focal length gets longer and longer.

As a general rule, you can safely handhold at a shutter speed that is the inverse of the focal length, and with the 1.5x crop sensor in your D40 you multiply the focal length by 1.5. So with your D40, you can safely handhold at 100mm with a shutter speed of 1/150 second or faster. Also, if you set your camera on continuous shooting, generally the 2nd shot will have less camera motion than the 1st.

But it also depends on what kind of shooting you do, because VR doesn't help with fast-moving subjects. And, VR also makes a lens heavier, which can make it less fun to lug around.

But for most people, most of the time, VR on a telephoto lens is a good thing to have.


2) Many people say that camera-brand lenses like Nikon are better than 3rd-party lenses like Sigma & Tamron. But that contradicts not only independent test results, but also user reviews by people who have tried both.

For example, among people who have tried both the $400 Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 and the $1,200 Nikon 17-55mm f/2.8, most prefer the Tamron overall, even if they don't care about the price difference. And independent tests generally show the Tamron to be a bit better overall, though the Nikon is stronger in some aspects.

Perhaps the most important thing to understand about lens brands is this: All brands have great lenses and all brands have not so great lenses. For each lens you're interested in, you need to check into that specific lens' reputation and test results.

However, there IS one way in which Nikon lenses will always be a bit safer than any 3rd-party lens: None of the 3rd-party lens makers pay for the full specs of the camera interface. Instead, they reverse-engineer. They usually do a fine job, but sometimes there are bugs that must be fixed by sending in the lens to be re-chipped (have the microchip replaced). But this does not affect most people who buy 3rd-party lenses.

Regardless of brand, the more expensive, professional-grade lenses are built to last longer under constant use. Inexpensive consumer grade lenses are built to be used by non-pros who aren't out there shooting with them all day long, day after day.


3) The main difference you're seeing there is how fast the lens is; that is; how wide is its widest aperture. It's harder to make it sharp at the wider aperture, and requires a lot more expensive specialized glass. And all that weight requires a stronger construction, stronger autofocus motor, stronger VR motor, etc. And, since they don't sell anywhere near as many of them, they don't have the economy of scale of the cheaper lenses.

Also, traditionally, the faster, more expensive zooms were sharper at their widest aperture, say, f/2.8, than the cheaper ones were at their widest, say, f/3.5 or f/4.0. So with a cheaper one you'd need to shoot at, say, f/5.6 or smaller to get a sharp picture. But today, many cheaper ones are closing the gap.


"Finally") With your last question, I assume that by "all around", you mean an upgrade to your 18-55. I also assume you want auto-focus, which with your D40 requires that the lens have its own autofocus motor.

The Nikon 18-70mm would be a significant step up in overall image quality. The Nikon 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6 or the Nikon 24-85mm f/2.8-4 would also be good choices if they don’t break the bank.

The Nikon 24-120 VR is not really a bad lens, but probably not better overall image quality than your 18-55.

The Sigma 18-50mm /f2.8 is an excellent lens, better than even the Nikon 18-70 (it's closer to the image quality of the $1,200 Nikon 17-55) and yes it has an in-lens autofocus motor. Note, Sigmas have really awful lens caps, so you might want to get a Nikon lens cap for this lens.

I'd suggest the Sigma, but if you must have a Nikon lens, I'd suggest the 18-70.

All of those lenses are bigger and heavier than your 18-55, and you should consider their weight before buying.

If you're looking for the best image quality, avoid very long zoom ranges, like the Nikon 18-200mm. When people say a lens like that is great, what they really mean is it's great for its focal range.


Getting back to your "looking at" a 70-300 or a 55-200:

For a 70-300, your choices are Nikon ED without VR, and Nikon ED with VR. The others would all be manual-focus on your D40.

The Nikon ED is a very good lens. The Nikon VR is a significant step up from it in image quality, in addition to the VR. Both get soft around 300mm.

For 55-200mm, your choices are Sigma, Nikon cheap, and Nikon cheap with VR. The Tamron would be manual-focus on your D40.

If you must have VR, the 55-200 is a cheaper way to get it than the 70-300, and the image quality is not bad. For the cheap 55-200, expect only adequate performance. But expect the full range to be useable, compared to softer images at 300mm on the 70-300s.

My suggestion: if the 70-300 doesn't break the bank, you'll probably be happiest with it. Otherwise, the 55-200 VR.


Good luck and have fun!

Greg
Answered By: greglovern - 12/11/2008
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I'm not so sure about lenses overall, but I own a Nikon D60, It came with an 18-55mm VR Lense, the VR is exceptional, it actually works!
Answered By: xXx-Jaden-xXx - 12/10/2008
I own 3 Nikon lenses for my digital camera. A good all around lens is the 24-120 AF Nikkor. I don't what they cost now, but I paid about $500 for it. For my telephoto, I went VR and paid about $1700. It' worth it, I think, if you are going to do a lot hand hold photography. If you're going to use a tripod with the long lens, then you don't need it. I'm not surprised that you get crisp photos with the shorter focal length. The longer the lens, the more difficult it is to hand hold. The rule of thumb is you need a mimimum shutter speed of 1/focal length. So a 50mm lens should be clear at a 60th of a second, but for 200mm you're going to need about 1/250.
Answered By: Alan G - 12/10/2008
The excellent 55-200 mm VR at just around $200 is an good investment. You can expect Nikon lenses to last for decades.

Nikon, Canon, Pentax and Sony lenses will always be better builds than any third-party lens.

The range of the zoom has nothing to do with its quality.

You may be surprised to hear that the prime 400 mm VR Nikon lens costs in excess of $7,000
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Answered By: fhotoace - 12/10/2008
1) VR is worth it for the amateur user based on their ability to hold the camera steady. VR's worth increases as you shoot at longer focal lengths (which magnifies any shake your hands may have). VR's worth also increases when you are attempt to hand hold long exposures.

2) Sigma is 3rd party. Generally 3rd party lenses have less quality control than the official company lenses. Some users will have great luck get great copies of the 3rd party lens and then tout that 3rd party has the same quality as the Nikon / Canon lenses. Because you have a Nikon D40, the Autofocus (AF) system is in the body of the camera, and requires special lenses to make use of it. This severely limits your choice of lenses to Nikon AF-S lenses. Make sure whatever lens you buy, still supports the AF system on your D40 (unless you are looking to do manual focus on each exposure).

3) Expensive lenses have more elements, are larger, heavier so that they can support larger apertures (smaller fstop numbers). Essentially this equates to the ability to take non blurry pictures with either fast moving subjects or in low light conditions which is often the case when professionals need to take pictures (weddings, sporting events, to name a few).

4) Biggest bang for your buck! (I would highly recommend the Nikon 18-200). It isn't pro quality, but it will give you the most range (wide angle 18mm to telephoto 200mm) all in one lens. It costs about 600-700 bucks, but is worth it if you are going to use the range. If you dont need the long range, your 18-55 is just fine.

Hope this helps! Good Luck!
Answered By: dragonwithin - 12/10/2008
Congratulations on your new camera, it certainly is a good choice!

1) You are not paying the higher price only for the VR feature. The lenses utilizing it are of more quality in general. Also note that the VR is more critical as the magnification (zoom) gets higher. For a handheld shot with zoom over 100mm it will give you a good advantage.

2) Nikon lenses should be expected to have a better quality control (you don't have to be lucky to get a good example) and they also should last much longer without wearing. But you can get very good examples of many types of Sigma lenses.

3) You could ask the same about cars, four wheels and a steering wheel -- so what's the difference, you know. It is a matter of preference. and needs. The good (read expensive) lenses are sharp, deliver correct colors, have the same quality both in the center of the picture and at the edges and so on (for ever). What do you need and what can you afford?

So, the last is the most difficult, is it sensible to advise a lens that is more expensive than the camera? Could be, as if you upgrade the camera the lens can live with the new camera if it is good enough. And also, if it was an overshot it is always easier to sell good stuff for decent money. My recommendation would be the the 18-200 mm VR lens, it is not a professional lens, but many professionals use it because it is quite good, especially for the money. I do have one (and also the better, more expensive models 70-200; 80-400 so I do have the comparison) and I like it a lot.

You should take a look at Bjorn Rorslett's web, it has a very good review pages for Nikon lenses: http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2.html

Good luck and happy photographing!
Willy

Answered By: Willy - 12/10/2008
I have the D40, among others. Here is my answer:

1) Yes, VR is totally worth the extra money! I own the 55-200mm lens without the VR, and when it's dark, or there's not a lot of light in the scene, the images are always blurry! Without Vibration reduction, you have to Use a minimum shutter speed reciprocal to the focal length of the length. So, at 200mm's, you have to use a shutter speed of 1/200th of a second. Which, in certain situations, is impossible. With Vibration reduction, you can use a shutter speed 3 to 4 times longer, which is much more convenient. So, yes, VR is definitely worth the extra money. You will really find it useful. The reason you don't notice to much blur with your 18-55mm lens is because you will rarely get a shutter speed under 1/18- 1/50 when shooting normally. With a 200mm lens, things are very different.

2) The difference is that Nikkor brand lenses are better in quality, and produce relatively better images when compared to third party lenses, like Sigma, and Tamron. This isn't to say that third party lenses aren't a good choice, it's just that if you have the extra money for Nikkor, you should spend it. But, a lens like your 18-55mm lens could not compare to a lens like the Sigma 10-20mm lens, which is four hundred and fifty dollars.

3) The main difference is that The lens is build more ' luxuriously ' for say. It's made of more durable materials, it has a proper manual focusing ring, it has a tripod mount, the lens is often much faster, and way sharper. With lenses, you definitely get what you pay for. A one hundred dollar lens really could not compared to a four thousand dollar lens. The more expensive lenses are just better in nature.

The 18-55mm lens is only suitable for wide angle photography to normal photography. Anything Beyond 55mm's, is out of your range. So, the next lens you should consider is the 55-200mm VR lens, which is a Great lens, and the images are Great. Sure, it doesn't have the quality of 70-200mm lens, but trust me, it's still a Great lens:

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-55-200mm-4-5-6G-AF-S-Nikkor/dp/B000O161X0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1228961221&sr=1-1

I wouldn't suggest you get the version of this lens without the Vibration Reduction.

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Own the D40 18-55mm lens 55-200mm lens and have experience as an amateur photographer
Answered By: Nathan Grammatico - 12/10/2008
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