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Could someone please help me understand the stimulus bill?

So I'm only 16 and some may think that I don't know that much about politics. I'm just needing help with this.
Okay, I never supported Republicans or Democrats because both of them have bad sides and good sides. I've been hearing from a lot of people that they're starting to regret voting for him. I think this is because of that stimulus bill. My mom (who over-reacts to everything) thinks that Obama just wants to bankrupt the country then sell us to some foreign nation. From how it looks, $900 billion dollars is a lot of money. I'm just wondering what exactly is this supposed to do? Would it make our country go bankrupt? If someone could please help me understand this, I'd appreciate it. Right now I'm a little iffy about this thing. Maybe because it's the media and my family going around blowing this out of proportion.

Asked By: Kelsey C - 2/6/2009
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The economy goes through business cycles -- ups and downs.

Expansion - Peak - Contraction - Trough - Expansion - Peak - Contraction - Trough.

We're currently approaching or in a trough right now. That merely means economic activity has decreased substantially. Why?
1. Housing crisis and people losing money (not spending)
2. People aren't spending business sales revenue dries up
3. Businesses have to let employees go -- can't justify keeping them
4. More unemployment -- less spending
5. Less business revenue...
And the cycle continues until we reach a market equilibrium where spending (demand) meets production (supply).

Because banks had such a bad run w/ defaulted mortgages -- they've pulled back on the amount of lending they do.

Well before the crisis -- people depended on spending...credit cards were fueling our economy. When you remove credit cards -- you also remove the spending and we're back to the vicious cycle 1-5.

So what does the stimulus propose to do?

The stimulus proposes to inject money into the market. It replaces some of the money usually spent by consumers w/ credit cards w/ government money. In a sense, it creates an artificial support in the free-market that slows the rate of our failing economy.

Think of it this way. If the rate of consumer/credit spending was 10 units and began to fall by 1 unit per month, theoretically if we were to pump .5 units of government spending into the model we could slow the rate by 1/2 unit per month. What if we could pump in .8 units per month. The rate would fall to .2 units drop per month.

The idea is to hold it as low as possible until the economy rebounds naturally -- as it's done many times before. So instead of plummeting 5 units over 5 months, you only fall by 2.5 units...which also translates into a reduced unemployment rate and keeps people working (hypothetically). It's called an artificial support.

The problem with the bill is it's mostly pork (wasteful spending that has nothing to do with "stimulus). That is 500 billion dollars won't have a direct stimulus on anything other than growing the reach and power of government. The remaining 300 billion dollars is direct stimulus into the free-market (injecting units of spending) but it's spread out over 4 years.

Logistically, we're injecting 75 billion dollars per year against a 13 trillion dollar GDP.

What does that mean?

Assume our the rate of decline in the economy is 1 unit per month. If we were to inject 75 billion vs 13 trillion, we'd like slow the rate by .01 or 1/10th of a percent.

If you ask me, the solution proposed doesn't make sense.

If you have more questions about it, e-mail me.

summary.
Replace consumer spent money with government spent money at an attempt to keep the rate and frequency of exchange from slowing so greatly it requires businesses to lay off thousands of employees (600,000 jobs lost last month). That's the idea.
Answered By: musicman812 - 2/6/2009
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Its a hugh spending bill wont help the economy at all
Answered By: honeybeejim - 2/6/2009
I would be more then happy to explain the stimulus in great detail,but it would take to much space on here. But what it comes down to is most of the stimulus bill is garbage. Money being spent on crap that is not going to help anyone. Like planting new grass on the capital mall. Yes believe it or not that is one of the many pieces of fat in the bill. How is planting new grass on a mall going to help the economy one bit? Other then maybe the company they purchase the grass from.
Answered By: Mr.Cow Attorney at Law - 2/6/2009
Well Kelsey... I'm 47 years old .. and I don't understand it either....

All I can say is.. it's one big mess...thanks to all involved....

I guess as Americans we keep paying more and more taxes... it's crazy... and I really don't see a light at the end of the so called tunnel... pretty sad seeing all these people lose their jobs... companies closing up...

All I can is.. God help us all....
Answered By: whadda ya think ... - 2/6/2009
The Problem is it has so much stuff in it NO one understands it.

The idea is to put money into the system can help the banks loan more money and help people feel more secure.
The problem is they have too much fluff in there.

The best way to get the economy going is to get the housing market going again, the governement needs to invest in the public.
Low Cost loans to businesses, people etc.

Alot of people have bad credit right now because they lost jobs or homes. They need to have a government loan available to people with bad credit to be able to buy a home, this will help house sell, and that will help the economy, part of the reason we are here are the SUB PRIME mortgages where these companies took advantage of people with bad loans. The government needs to offer good housing loans 30 year fixed rate loans to people who lost homes in the crisis and others
if you default on a government loan you can't file bankruptcy on the loan and they can take your income tax refund if you don't pay.
This guarantees the loans will get paid and consumer confidence and home prices will rise because they are selling, which will help the economy. Then they need to focus on healthcare expenses and creating jobs. But they are spending money on carp like the endowment for the arts.... which should not be in the package at all.
Also invest in the schools, we have pitiful schools.
Answered By: TaylorProud - 2/6/2009
You really have to understand what our current situation is. go to c-span . org and watch Joe Biden's speech today for the Democratic Caucus. If you watch government in progress on c-span, you get a very accurate view, I think, of how and why it does what it does.
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as I see it: Lawlessness in the most powerful USA financials, created a ton of of non-existent money. This was fine, because everyone was using the non-existent money. And more people kept getting out of bed in the morning to go do something, like a job, or live in a home, or start a family. But we reached a point where there weren't any more homes, we sold out of everything. So you have an avalanche of people coming of age, and needing these things, and nothing is left. Now we have to look at how to cancel all the fake home deals, or fake job deals, without destroying all those people's lives, and at the same time, create wealth with new jobs, new homes, which will have to be paid for on - you guessed it - more credit (non-existent money). but the idea is we'll create enough ACTUAL wealth in the process that we'll be able to pay back that credit. INVESTING IN THE FUTURE. so we'll all go to work on solar panels, or we'll have powerful education grants so our next generation of PhDs can design them more powerfully, all kinds of stuff is in this stimulus bill to remake our failing country.
Answered By: AgriCult - 2/6/2009
Stimulus Package is not the spam you get every day it is a spending bill where well placed money is given to the largest and biggest banks and they will profit from the less fortunate and the company. The small business will be able get a loan for high interest. Home loans are still unsolved. There is a bunch of pork to keep Government working that the plan. I did not read it all
Answered By: Pablo - 2/6/2009
Essentially your mother is correct. Benjamin Franklin once said "You cannot spend money you do not earn without ruining your credit". With a gigantic defecit we are doing just that with little or no return. Look at it this way: I want all your money but I refuse to tell you what I am doing with it. Can I have it? Until corporate america in general makes some sweeping changes no amount of "free" money will help much. While we will not go bankrupt {we print the money} there will be rampant inflation down the line that is not being addressed. It is good that you are concerned, because you will pay for this fiasco all your remaining days when you begin to work.
Answered By: Gunner - 2/6/2009
Let me give you a little economic theory. It's at an appropriate level for you age. That's about how old I was when I first took macro-economics:

When you spend a dollar, you get a dollar worth of goods and services. That's goods or services that have been created and added to the economy because you spent it, someone who has a job because of you. The person you gave that dollar to will save a portion of it and spend a portion of it. Let's say they spend 80 cents. They get 80 cents worth of goods and services for that dollar, which means that your one dollar has now added $1.80 to the economy. The person they give that $0.80 to spends $0.64, meaning now about $2.44 has been added to the economy. This is known as the multiplier effect.

The multiplier effect means that for every dollar spent, more than a dollar is pumped into the economy, which means that people can produce goods and services and have jobs. The spending bill doesn't just help the people who work on programs being funded. It helps everyone who depends on those people as well, such as store owners who need customers with money, as an example.

Spending bills create jobs almost no matter what the money is spent on. That doesn't mean it doesn't matter how the money is spent. The size of the multiplier depends in part on who gets the money first. The wealthy tend to save more than the poor because they can afford to, so if the money goes to jobs for people who are struggling, they'll pump more if it back out into the economy and you'll get more jobs created for the same initial money (instead of more money sitting in bank accounts).


This is a bit of an oversimplification, you should also be aware that money sitting in the bank gets lent out, so it still helps the economy, but not as much as the money that is directly spent. However in the current economy, money isn't being lent. The banks have money, thanks to previous government stimulus programs, but won't lend it out because they have no confidence that people can pay it back. People need jobs before the banks will lend. That issue gets a lot more complicated, but you should be aware it exists.


Back to the current stimulus bill: The types of spending that have the biggest multiplier, and thus create the most jobs, are infrastructure spending. Building roads and bridges, upgrading utilities like the power grid and bringing high speed internet to rural communities. All spending creates jobs, but those programs are the most beneficial to the economy. When you're crafting a large stimulus package, you need to look not only at the multiplier effect, but also at other aspects of the program. There are only so many infrastructure projects that are currently ready to be built. For the rest of the money, you ask: what do we need? That's where a lot of the debate is happening right now in the Senate.


So that's the good side, but your mother is not totally wrong about the downside. The money isn't coming from taxes, it's coming from bonds. A bond is an IOU. The government sells bonds now to individual investors and foreign countries and later has to pay them interest. Essentially, the government is borrowing the money. It will have to be paid back eventually. The national debt has skyrocketed in the last 30 years, now around 10 trillion dollars. This bill will likely add another trillion to that. There is a danger in this, as if we owe too much, people who lend us the money will not be willing to do it anymore, fearing that they won't get the money back.



You've got to weigh the risks and the rewards. The best policy is to run the government exactly the opposite of the way you run a company. During bad economic times, a lot of people lose their jobs. The government should be spending more money in those times and selling bonds to do it. Then, as the economy improves, the private sector creates more jobs and it becomes unnecessary to keep spending so much. That's the time when the government needs to pay off it's bonds. That's the part that's always difficult to convince the voting public about, unfortunately. Everyone looks at a surplus as an opportunity for a tax cut. In fact, it's an opportunity to pay off debt so we can afford the next recession.

I hope this helps.
Answered By: Joe Finkle - 2/6/2009
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