Well California is up to their eyeballs in debt and they spend an average of five billion dollars per year on illegals when you add up medical costs, lack of income tax collection from them, crime, etc... So you tell me.
Answered By: Lightning Spiral - 2/18/2009 |
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Well if nothing else look at the educational cost alone, it is staggering to see what taxpayer money is used for.
Answered By: The Man - 2/18/2009 |
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On balance, there are no economic benefits to having illegal aliens in the U.S. They cost local, state and federal agencies far more money than they generate, plus much of what illegals earn is sent back to their home countries.
Answered By: Cranky Yankee - 2/18/2009 |
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It only it only benefit the racist scum that hires them
Answered By: Leuroth - 2/18/2009 |
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Let's see, urbane blight, joblessness amongst citizens, over taxing our social services, over crowding our south-western schools,.. Oh wait you ask for economic benefits didn't you? Sorry, outside of fattening GT's wallet I can't think of any.
Answered By: rlstaehle - 2/18/2009 |
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Answered By: tempthack02 - 2/18/2009 |
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No. The ones who whine and moan about it would not be willing to take the jobs themselves that some of these hard working people are doing. If there is a way they can get their paperwork done, then they should. * EDIT : For all thumb downs : Didn't your grandparents or great grandparents affect the economy somehow, they were immigrants weren't they ? I don't agree with the criminal activities of those who commit crimes, whoever they are. Definition of criminal activities ; murder, domestic abuse, robbery, assault, drug pushing, drunk driving, dangerous driving, lewd and immoral behavior, fraud, vandalism,etc. How is it that the country a person happens to be from matters more than their conduct, whether it is good or bad ? What kind of chances do they have to get their paperwork done without being sent back before they can ? Is it the same chance that your grandparents, or others before that had to get legal? I doubt it.
Answered By: Camellia - 2/18/2009 |
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It hurts our economy because :
-it takes jobs away from our citizens
-it lowers the quality of our labor by forcing legal Americans to lower their prices to get work (ie: contractor's bidding on jobs will have to cut their price to compete with contractors with illegal workers)
-it hurts our credit because banks like "bank of america" give credit cards to illegal aliens who never pay them off and they make up the money from insurance which raises our premiums.
-we are forced to pay extra for medicare to cover FREE medicare for illegals
-it over populates our country
-it lessens the value of our dollar when illegals work here and send the money back to their home country
-there is high number of murder, drug trafficking, and crime directly linked to illegals
-illegals are exempt from paying taxes which raises our taxes to pay for all the extra people instead of spreading tax between us all
-it's spreads disease, when you legally enter the country you are checked and given shots
-and about 100 other things I don't have time to type out
there are no economic benefits of illegal immigration, not a single one
LET ME TEAR GREASY'S ARGUMENT APART"
1. They pay BILLIONS in taxes every year
no they don't because their employers are not allowed to hire them so they do not declare their taxes to the irs,
if the irs saw taxes registered to an illegal they would take the employers license away
2. They are consumers like you and I. They buy houses, cars, food, cloths, electronics....
although yes they can walk into a store and spend money
they can not buy houses without alerting their presence to the irs, which will have them deported once they find out. the majority of the ones buying houses were given loans that they can not pay off which is killing lending.
3. Their value to the economy is $1.8TRILLION.
most of the money they make are sent to their relatives in other countries lowering the amount of cash in america which hurts our dollar because undeclared money we think is here is not
4. They fill the gaps in our labor workforce.
their are no gaps, just millions of Americans who can not find jobs, Americans are very willing to take the hard work jobs especially the first job teens who can not find work anywhere at the moment
5. And YES! they do the work today's American, and especially their children won't do.
it is an insult to generalize Americans as lazy we have very hard working people who can not find jobs who are willing to take anything but can not because the illegals will do it cheaper.
6. They keep our prices down, not only by their hard work and determination, but also by their spending habits.
they keep our prices down because they work for cheaper than legal wages which forces our legitimate businesses to work for lower than regular wages to stay competitive with the illegal businesses. to keep the costs down companies are forced to layoff staff.
I am not against LEGAL immigrants, my grandparents came from Italy on a boat, and my Italian grandfather fought in WWII and was awarded the purple heart. I am however fully against i****************s that do not go through the steps to be legitimate citizens.
Answered By: stiggievandell - 2/18/2009 |
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Of course. People intending to be a benefit come through the door, not the basement window.
Some will be useful in spite of themselves but on balance, it's a drain.
They pay SOME forms of taxes but also account for a disproportionate amount of government payouts including direct assistance payments, subsidies and administrative costs. Their "participation" in the sub-prime market is WAY out of proportion to their numbers. Most of the numbers you see lump them together with lawful immigrants. As a subset, illegals simply do not hold-up their end.
According to their own ADVOCACY groups they commit a portion of "our" violent crimes about an order of magnitude larger than their share of the population. Guess what? That's expensive. Actually said by a "La Raza" spokesperson - his numbers were off, but he made this point - You better be willing to accommodate us. We may be only 10?f your population but we commit 90?f your crime.
Schools and hospitals are financially collapsing from the illegals' economic "benefit."
Answered By: . . - 2/18/2009 |
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Yes, with no economic benefit
$25-40 billion wired out of the US every year
because of education level and number of dependents there is no tax liability
They pay a SMALL portion of property tax in rental fees.
There is no sales tax on food items so they pay SALES tax on gasoline and non-food items only.
The increase in crime costs us financially in mental and physical health care costs for crime victims.
Diseases that are recurring in the US is costing us financially in health care costs.
Educating their children is costing us over $28 billion a year.
Does anyone really believe the illegal population is paying in $28 billion a year in property taxes to cover ed costs? $3 billion a year to cover labor/delivery charges? At least $5 billion in ER care? $ billions in welfare? THEY SUPPOSEDLY PAY ALL THIS IN BY MOWING LAWNS AND DOING DISHES AND CLEANING TOILETS. RIGHT!
Answered By: sasori - 2/18/2009 |
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Is a shotgun blast to the back of your head detrimental to your health?
No. The ones who whine and moan about it would not be willing to take the jobs themselves that these hard working people are doing. If there is a way they can get their paperwork done, then they should. * EDIT : For all thumb downs : Didn't your grandparents or great grandparents effect the economy somehow, they were immigrants weren't they ?? I don't agree with criminal activities of those who commit crimes though, whoever they are.
With billions of people wanting to come to this country legally some people believe that you can NOT find a single person to do a job presently done by a low life criminal! Shrot of doing what illegal, immoral, criminal invaders do best (commit crime) I don't know of any jobs that we couldn't find someone to do without stooping to hiring low life criminals to do them!
Answered By: DOCAR - 2/18/2009 |
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Yep. I guess CA is flush with economic benefits.... if the rest of the nation bails them out, that is. Say NO to the illegal alien invaders sucking us dry!
Answered By: American Man - 2/18/2009 |
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OF course it does!!! At it bring no economic benefits with it...at all. While the illegals may be here to 'work' or whatever they kids they pop out year after year are a burden to the taxpayers. They use every 'poor people' benefit they can get their hands on such as low income housing, wic, food stamps, medicare, etc. With the economy the way it is we can't afford them anymore, and regardless of what Greasysmellytony says many a hard working American would take the jobs they leave behind.
Answered By: xanthalolly - 2/18/2009 |
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Well after read all of these opinion, made me "sick" with all those people hate "illegal"immigration to fall down of your economy.
Think twice before accused them, not everyone of them was bad like you talking about, do you think criminal at our your country all by "illegal" immigration people..oh yach great, please tell me source where did you get it state 'illegal" do this crime, etc...
They hard work or take lower wage because they have family to feed, they send money back because your country did not give them chance to saving here without SS, they would like pay tax but your country did not give them chance without working permit. Because people like you specially accused "illegal" cause this economic is the one to blamed. You are lazy, all day just think party and where to g******d, if possible make 1 million in 1 months, give complaint if little bit extra work...that's all in your mind.
If you are hard working and have family to feed, I guarantee you will not post this matter and accused "illegal" people.
I knew alot of them also bad to community but do not judge book from cover, alot of them also good people.
Remember your parent, grand parents or great grand parent might be are immigrant also the original owner your country is "INDIAN" not you white guy....so you are illegal immigrant just got paper because your country need immigrant to build from 0(zero) until today.
I wrote this because I am immigrant and I pay my tax and I am hard working person because I know this is not my original country, this is the reason where I came for, my family, kids education and better life.
I am not a community TRASH, and I am giving back to community.
What have you done to your country dude ? with complaint immigrant hurt your economic ??? There is no reason made this up and make the community read this and hate immigrant.
You know what..if just your goverment give chance and ask all those without paper "illegal" to pay penalty to become legal..101?hey will pay no more think about it twice.
Just put each person penalty minimum US$5,000 and put illegal people about 10 million, do you think will be hurt your economy or help your economy ???? do the math dude.
Answered By: TnT - 2/18/2009 |
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I don´t really know if illegal inmigration can hurt financial system, however this vision of life smells like thoughts that a german guy had seventy years ago.A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. F$U$C$K the borders.
Answered By: hugosanchezlucas - 2/18/2009 |
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No they help the economy.
Greasy gave a good explanation with many good resources.
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I guess you don't care about what Greasy said because is not convenient to you. So what is the point trying to convince you?. The best answer goes to Greasy por favor.
Answered By: "The Great Dildo" - 2/18/2009 |
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