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Anyone know how to brew beer like Budweiser?

I already know it is very difficult to brew so I am not judging you. I am just looking for tips on brewing a very hot summer shade beer.
If you have experience with older pilsner methods that would also be helpful.

I am asking for help from mature and respectful people with brewing experience only. If this does not suit you please refrain from any response.

Thank you all.

Asked By: BobBreweryBuilder - 3/6/2009
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You are obviously an educated and intelligent person to be curious about brewing such a great beer. Yes it is difficult to brew but do not let that stop you from conducting your own trial brews.
You must know that the rice needs to be milled very small/fine and gelatinized in a cereal cooker prior to being added to the main mash. This is because rice does not contain amylytic enzymes and its strach needs to be made ready or exposed to the enzymes of the mash.
When it somes to beechwood aging this is for yeast-wort contact foe a more complete fermentation. You can accomplish this by circulating (agitating) your fermenting wort. The beechwood chips serve only for this fermentation purpose and contributes no flavor. It is an old practice amny brewers employed in days gone by and serve AB through marketing. It is labor and cost intensive to employ this method of yeast-aiding attenuation.
You also need to use good German hops as Ab does with their beer. They use nothing but the highest quality of ingredients available on the private and commercial markets. Clone style yeast(s) are available also online or from most any brew shop.

The Weatherman does pick and choose his words carefully, and knows very little of the reasons for using rice in beer.

If the Weatherman can state his sources for the use of rice being for cost only it would lend cretance to his diatribe? But of course he cannot because it is deeper than that.

I can easily speak on the behalf of DEA of anyone that is interested in being educated on beer for that matter. Today, I give a lesson to Weatherman. Rice is not a cheap ingredient for beer. Yes it like barley of any commodity has a fluctuating price and at any given time it may be cheaper or more costly than another given a certain set of circumstances. But rice/corm/wheat/ oats (just choose any) all have particular contribution to the product that they are utilized in. Rice indeed contributes flavors very light and subtle flavors indeed.
DEA is correct that the German brewers in the USA did incorporate rice in the beers they brewed in the US. Perhaps if one was to read more carefully and stop interjecting into others words they could learn something.


1. Rice in American Pilsner is/was indeed a German brewer inception-fact!
2. American-Pilsner is a world recognized beer style and has won many awards as well. It is anti-Ameirican (#@$?) that are in fear of this becoming, as it has, more popular in their countries.
3. What a laugh. To hear/read such things from someone which has never worked in the beer industry and it shows. The above guy (s) speak with (I can not say) but a very large deficit on both beer knowledge and especially in the skills department of brewers. Yes indeed the automation in the larger segment lends to processing large mass flows to aid the brewer of which will become beer. But in a smaller scale, craft brewers utilize the same. LMAO It goes beyond that. It goes into the knowledge of how to set parameters with the ingredients specifications and to adjust on the spot during the actual brewing. These are the knowledge-based skills the big brewers have over the little boys by far. Do the craft brewers do a good job? Yes they do. But they do not compare easily to those skills of the Anheuser Busch, Heinekens, SAB's of the world Just a fact no big deal really..

" I find it curious that anyone can come down on an ale for containing wheat while praising Bud for using rice. Chaque un a son gout."
Why? Others do the same with many other adjunct ingredients.
Well I FIND it curious anyone can come down on Bud when brewing Miller Lite. Or that same person can condemn one rice beer over another. Chaque un a son gout.
Wheat is an adjunct grain to the brewer. But should any grain be considered adjunct?

Wheat was the "rice" of its day in Germany. It took some political wrangling to get its written into the German and "German only" food-beers laws. So many people overlook the the foolish decisions brewers make today in brewing beer with strange and unusual ingredients. [coffee, cocoa, spices, fruits (banana, grapes, others), millet, Sorghum, and many many others.] Is it a throw-back to earlier breweing days where freedom abounded for the brewer? Yes. Is it now that brewers today understand health and safety issues of brewing a food product? Yes. But certain people just can not and will not educate themselves on beer and beer/brewing history. The same people are just to entrenched into outdated and limited mind sets about anything especailly beer.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/index.php/Grains#Other_Grains
Answered By: BEER - 3/8/2009
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Quite simple.

You get a normal lager recipe.

Throw out half of the real ingredients, and replace them with cheap rubbish like rice.

Only brew it 3/4 as far as it should be brewed, then artificially kill the yeast.

Refuse to store it properly, instead drink it way to early (after all who cares that the word LAGER actually refers to the fact that is is stored before drinking to develop flavour)

Seriously, if you want a cool, refreshing, beer look for a Weizen recipe and brew that instead.

EDIT: Nice to see DEA picks and chooses his words carefully, and knows little of the reasons for using rice.

An adjunct is ANY non malted grain added to beer.

1) Rice did not get to America via German brewers, they are not allowed to use it is Germany because of the Reinheitsgebot (German beer purity laws) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinheitsgebot

2) Wheat Beer (Weizen in Germany) is a recognised beer style world wide, and the wheat used is NOT an adjunct in that style of beer, but an integral ingredient. IT is there to provide better head retention, and add a slight sour/tartness to the beer. (Hoegaarden, Pauliner, Schneider, Bernard etc are some award winning Wheat Beers .... award winning being something ABs poor version of Czech Budweiser will never do outside the USA)

Using his argument oats are only an adjunct to oatmeal stouts, but the same as wheat in wheat beers are there for taste reasons, not purely to save money.

3) Rice was added by AB to their beer because it IS a cheap adjunct and is purely there to make production cheaper (strange for something that calls itself a premium beer). The only real effect it has on the product is to make it lighter in colour.

4) IT takes more skill to make AB Bud than a craft brew as off flavours are hidden in craft brewed beers - I don't think so, AB, and all hugely mass produced beers worldwide, are automated, so take no brewing skills at all, it also takes no skill to make bland beer time after time. Craft brewers hand make their beers, and show their skill by turning out the same beer time after time, they also show it in developing new beers, of many different styles.
Answered By: Weatherman - 3/6/2009
YA will let anybody on here. Well it is not English rubbish beer no doubt.

It takes a crew of skilled and educated workers to brew Budweiser. Many hold chemical engineering and biology degrees.
The beer is processed as any other beer basically but it takes an extra step in utilizing rice as a grain source. What to know about this type of beer is understanding that the rice serves several functions from fermentable sugar source to lighter body and refreshing taste. It came into use from German brewer-immigrants back in the 19th century and has gained a greater percentage in the total grain usage over the years.

The rice is first made gelatinous in a cereal cooker then added to the main mash. The brewing then commences as in any other lager beer. During the fermentation of Budweiser beer beechwood chips are used. This once was a more common practice of many brewers and is used today mainly for marketing purposes. What the wood chips do (and only this) is add a greater surface area to allow the yeast to be better exposed to the fermenting wort.
You are correct to say it is difficult to brew. The skill involved must be superior as off flavor can easily be detected unlike many European and US craft beers which usually hide their mistakes" in all the excess and unbalanced flavor.



Wheat beers are not real beer as it uses cheap wheat which is an adjunct.
Answered By: DEA - 3/6/2009
I'll skip the obvious question of why you would want to and get to it. You can get clone recipes on the http://byo.com website. I think that they have one for Bud. If that is the style you like, Papazian has a book of gold medal clones. That is, he cloned all the gold medal winners that particular year. I have brewed the Miller Lite clone, which my wife likes, and the Dos Equis clone, which we both like. Either is a good "lawnmower beer". Both use pilsner yeast, as I recall. I still prefer a good hefeweisen, no matter what any Bud shill says. I find it curious that anyone can come down on an ale for containing wheat while praising Bud for using rice. Chaque un a son gout.
Answered By: oikos - 3/6/2009
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