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What country will Americans go for health care once our system is socialized?

Many Canadians currently get medical treatment in the USA. Where will Canadians and Americans go for health care once our own system is socialized?

My guess is Costa Rica. Many already go there for treatments not approved by the FDA.

Asked By: Freakazoid - 8/8/2009
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I have to hold my tongue!!! But, OBAMA DOES NOT WANT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. OBAMA IS NOT A SOCIALIST. If you knew what a socialist is, you would have to be told.

"The funny thing is, of course, that socialists know that Barack Obama is not one of us. Not only is he not a socialist, he may in fact not even be a liberal. Socialists understand him more as a hedge-fund Democrat -- one of a generation of neoliberal politicians firmly committed to free-market policies."

"The same holds true for health care. A national health insurance system as embodied in the single-payer health plan reintroduced in legislation this year by Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), makes perfect sense to us. That bill would provide comprehensive coverage, offer a full range of choice of doctors and services and eliminate the primary cause of personal bankruptcy -- health-care bills. Obama's plan would do the opposite. By mandating that every person be insured, ObamaCare would give private health insurance companies license to systematically underinsure policyholders while cashing in on the moral currency of universal coverage. If Obama is a socialist, then on health care, he's doing a fairly good job of concealing it."

Secondly, Americans are already leaving the country for medical help. It's called MEDICAL TOURISM, countries that have just as good or better health care than we do for about 1/10th the price.

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According to the National Coalition on Health Care, more than 500,000 Americans traveled abroad to receive medical and dental work in 2006. And this is not an isolated trend. Every year, millions of patients from around the globe flock to some of the hottest medical tourism destinations in order to receive five-star treatment at unbelievable prices. Experts predict that by 2012, medical tourism will grow to be a $100 billion business with more than 780,000,000 patients traveling abroad to receive care from foreign doctors, dentists, and hospitals.
Answered By: I love yanking your chain - 8/8/2009
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Health care in Canada is very good. Doctor and nurse doing without focus on money. Only problem I experience is timely care. It mean it take time to get to you. I am do not favor Americans getting same system. If people wants timely care and rich just drive south for two hour get it in US. So American keep the old way. It is perfect for Canadian right now.
Answered By: Seeker - 8/11/2009
I'll just stay here. I mean socialized health care is considered far better than our own. France is rated number 1.
Answered By: sasil85 - 8/10/2009
I don't think it will pass. People aren't stupid enough to let that pass...yet. I pray to God this does not happen.
Answered By: msett - 8/10/2009
On the rare occasion, canadians do go to the states for health care. rich canadians, usually.

the american system is prioritized by who can pay, or who has better insurance.

in Canada, you will have to wait if there is someone sicker than you that needs that treatment ahead of you. that person ahead of you may be young, old, rich or poor, but if the professionals decide that that person is sicker than you, they go first.

I would rather priority was based on need, not ability to pay.

and yes, stupid bureaucracy has probably led to longer wait times than necessary, but I have always gotten treatment I needed, I have changed doctors with no paperwork,only waited max 2 1/2 hrs in emergency, and never had to pay an extra dime above my provincial health plan.

the rich can go wherever the hell they want, the rest of us will pay a fair premium for fair health services
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Answered By: Alyssa J - 8/10/2009
American health care is not going to be socialized and you know it.

Care to put forth another lie about the Health Care Initiative that will instill fear, anger, and doubt into the ignorant masses?

You're lying, and more and more people can see it every day.

Try again.
Answered By: AZ - 8/9/2009
I would like to see proof that many Canadians come here to get medical treatment.

I see a lot of people saying it, but no one has posted any proof of this claim yet.
Answered By: Quan - 8/8/2009
Really I would like a source on Canadians coming to the US for medical treatment.

Also there is no where to go. The only other places that don't have universal health care are third world countries. All developed nations other then the US have it.
Answered By: 2Negative - 8/8/2009
Many Americans already go to canada, mexico, and other countries for health care that their HMO refuses to cover. Please cite a source for medicare, medicaid, or Veteran health care customers seeking out health care in other nations. It doesn't happen, as THEY have FAR better health care than you and I do. Why do you want to deny that to us and the rest of the nation?
Answered By: bash - 8/8/2009
Youre lying
Answered By: Comrade Otto - 8/8/2009
I certainly can't afford to go anywhere. Only rich people fly out of the country to get health care....

You would think if they are rich enough to fly to another country and get HC they would also be smart enough to see its cheaper just to stay in America.

AND you're a liar
Answered By: Kiss me I have Swine Flu - 8/8/2009
Well, right now many Americans go to Canada for healthcare. In particular, pregnancy and cancer treatment. It's far cheaper and they get in right away. And, it costs nothing for Chemo. I know a few that went to Holland for Pancreatic cancer treatment because they couldn't afford it here.
The treatments that people are going to Costa Rica for are plastic surgury because it is far cheaper there to get it.
Answered By: AnneCoultersnemesis - 8/8/2009
I don't know, but if you find out, let me know!
Answered By: Carol M - 8/8/2009
India or South America.
Answered By: ATTENTION: Testicles That Is All - 8/8/2009
This is another lie of the conservatives. The federal govt will be competing with the private industry in a free market. This is not socialism.

More important, it is not the middle class coming to the USA for medical treatment. It is the upper class rich people in those countries.

India and Thailand already have huge tourism coming to their country for medical help.
Answered By: Bulwinkle - 8/8/2009
Canadians sometimes have elective surgeries performed in the U.S. Not because it's necessarily better. It has more to with the grass appearing greener on the other side.
Answered By: Unka Dano - 8/8/2009
I avoid doctors therefore I live and am healthy.
Eat right and exercise what a concept.
Answered By: AmericaFirstMiddleLastAlways - 8/8/2009
Thailand is another option. They'll do several medical procedures at a fraction of the cost that it is done in this country. India is going that way too. They have doctors trained here and have returned probably because we kicked them out.

Ask yourself how are they able to provide medical care in India and Thailand so much cheaper than us? Maybe that is the system we want.
Answered By: Big Brodie - 8/8/2009
Great Question ! -- My guess would also be Costa Rica + believe it or not Mexico were some American dental/health care professionals have established offices in Mexico and are already been rending quality servcies at much lower costs . I understand that many senior citizens are driving from California to Mexico to avail themselves of these cheaper quality services.
Answered By: The Nonpareil - 8/8/2009
You have all the proof you need awhile back when that English actress had a skiing accident were did they air-vav over night? She had her accident in Canada but it was the U S that they tried to get her too
We have more MRI's in the city of New York than they have in the whole of Canada Their equipment is old or non-existent They have a doctor shortage
They well not own up to it they [Canadian] would sooner have people die needlessly than to tell the truth

These same people well try and tell you Cuba health care is as good as ours Good God there is a toilet paper shortage They flew doctors and equipment in from Spain to take care of the old fart Castro,These people can not be trusted You can't believe one word they say
Listen to them ''she was brain dead already'' What crap You bet They put a doctor on board air vac her over night because her family were in the states and did not feel like making the trip up north What B/s
Answered By: RayHere - 8/8/2009
No one is proposing socializing our health care system. If they were, we wouldn't all be able to keep our private health insurance if we want to.
Answered By: г๏๓คгє - 8/8/2009
Actually, that Canadians get medical treatment here is a lie. There is no truth to it. Americans actually go there. Why? Because their system is far better than ours is. It is more efficient, less costly, and higher quality. The fact that Americans go there to get treatment should be enough to convince you of that. It doesn't take much intelligence to figure that one out.
Answered By: Ernesto T - 8/8/2009
Someone asked for an article on Canadians coming to US for care. Here's that and more:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/09/socialized_medicine_is_broken.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2001977834_cihak13.html

The government inspired HMO's drove prices way up as some of the best providers left the system due to sharp cuts in reimbursement. Those who stayed could no longer afford to provide as much free care.

Now we're talking about MORE government interference into health care? You can't solve a problem by doing more of what caused it.
Answered By: Shrieking Panda - 8/8/2009
Any resources for that? I guess not, because it's another lie. Canada's health care is fine, and they don't come here. I wish the U.S. was as well educated as Canadians actually...

And did you know that in Europe people are just DYING IN THE STREETS?!?!?!

Better vote for Palin in 2012, she'll put a stop to that, gee golly, you betcha!
Answered By: zapwai - 8/8/2009
To all you socialist idiots that want proof about horrible health care in Canada. I lived in Canada for four years and I know that their health care system is bad, I experienced it first hand. On top of it all in order for the canadian system to be supported financially, everything has such a high tax rate, so the people that are lazy and feed off of other peoples success are getting free health care in their system. I certaintly don't want that to happen it the United States. People have to stop complaining about the Government not doing enough for them, or whatever. It makes me sick, Government is not in place to give things to people who are lazy, or that don't work hard like the rest of us, etc..,
Answered By: np - 8/8/2009
Dubai sounds like its full of potential.
Answered By: jcpnum4green@att.net - 8/8/2009
Don't worry, be happy!

All will be well in the American Soviet Socialist Republic under President-For-Life Obama!! The Party will do all the thinking you need once the purges of reactionaries, counter-revolutionaries, and anti-social elements are complete.

If you are a member of the Party Elite you can get health-care in Switzerland!!!
Answered By: NOLA guy - 8/8/2009
It's important to acknowledge why people go to different countries for health care.

The American health care system is more dynamic and technologically advanced because it is less concerned about whether everyone gets treatment. People come to the US for treatments only our technology could have developed, and which are not paid for in by their tightly rationed systems; or they come here for immediate treatments that have long waiting lists in their own countries. (The wait time for a cancer procedure in Canada is a minimum of two weeks. It's a couple hours here.)

Other countries' systems focus on covering as many people as possible and keeping the patient's out-of-pocket costs artificially low, and are less concerned about medical advancement. Americans go to other countries for established procedures not approved by our government, or which are too expensive here unless an insurer pays (which insurers don't want to do).

So, if our health care is socialized, we will stop having to leave the country for much of the treatment we leave for now. But as our technological advantage lags from lack of R&D funds, we will start going abroad for advanced treatments - either to countries with freer health care markets or to countries with more raw resources available for health care. (For example, China or India beginning twenty or thirty years from now.)
Answered By: Uncle Tonto - 8/8/2009
I have just answered a similar question regarding the HMO policy introduction which had revolutionised the American health care system back in 1973.

The Nixon administration had introduced the HMO which had ensured that American Health care would operate on a 'user-pays' principle, provided that a qualitative health care provision would be given to those who can afford it.

This has ensured that the best quality health care and health insurance provision for these qualitative services are provided to those who are more privileged to afford this service provision. The less well off are grasping at straws receiving inferior quality health plans money can buy.

The issue of socialisation of the public health system is an issue of ideological relevance, insofar as, stating that a social welfare system providing universal health rights and provision for the most unequal Americans, are considered to be closet 'commies under the beds', is as much as saying that your health system is going to revert back to the Keynesian, or post-mercantilism, of macroeconomic public health insurance. Whether this may be in parity with Socialism is a matter of interpretation, however, the current system is rather eugenically designed and classist, in essence.

You have polemicised the issue of American health care to a level that socialism is considered synomonous with a 'Berlin Wall' for the American bourgeousie or, more to the point, the American utility maxisers.
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Answered By: Tim - 8/8/2009
Look at all the idiots claiming that we go to Canada for health care. Yeah, because we want to wait four+ months for cancer treatment, right?
Answered By: D Man - 8/8/2009
Many Canadians? Name some.... or are you just repeating what you heard? I can name a few who live in Montreal and Quebec and they have no complaints.

Where will I go? The same place I go for socialized roads, socialized fire fighting, socialized libraries, socialized police protection, socialized freeways, socialized sewer systems, socialized street lighting, socialized water systems, socialized trash pickup, socialized weather forecasts and socialized emergency radio warnings - right here at home;-)
Answered By: Mujer Alta - 8/8/2009
Cuba
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