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How can anyone object to a peaceful protest against radical Islam?

Unless they're a radical Islamist that is.

"You had people burning the Union flag. People were being kicked - some of them weren't anything to do with the protests. It all seemed to be very systematic - groups were arriving in cars and getting involved in the violence."
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/national-news/2009/08/09/33-arrested-over-city-demo-clashes-97319-24354242/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205263/Police-arrest-31-demonstration-Islamic-fundamentalism.html

Asked By: Patriot Paul - 8/10/2009
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Anybody who dares stand up to the Muslims and questions their way of looking at things is going to be labelled racist and fascist, but who cares? It is turning into a joke, albeit a very bad one for this country. Name-calling is a tired old tactic of the media.
http://martynfindley.blogspot.com/2009/08/ex-bedworth-councillor-sam-margrave.html
http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/2009/07/lee-jasper-and-uaf.html

It seems a line has been drawn. Community ‘Cohesion’ Minister Shahid Malik has now announced he is going to take a much softer line on the extremist Muslims in future, and concentrate his efforts on putting down dissent in White British communities:-

“Labour slammed the brakes on its war against violent extremism yesterday - amid fears it had upset Muslim voters. Millions spent preventing Asian kids becoming terrorists will now be used to tackle right-wing racists in White areas.” This is the same Shahid Malik who lost his job as Justice Minister in the expenses scandal.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2579296/Labour-says-they-will-ease-up-on-Muslim-fanatics.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1LXahun7zo&feature=related

While Shahid Malik spends millions labelling the political opponents of Muslim extremism ‘right-wing racists’, Saudi billions back the spread of fundamentalist Islamic ideology in British mosques, politicizing islam and radicalizing Muslim youth. Specially-trained hard-line preachers are teaching the weakening of British democracy and resolve and the take-over of the British state, and jihad against Christians and Jews. They promote the hard-line Saudi sharia law and a world-wide Islamic government. The mosques say they are 'moderate' and promote inter-faith dialogue, but behind closed doors the message couldn't be more different. Moderate Islam itself is being displaced in Britain by this fundamentalist hard-line teaching which is especially popular with young Muslims.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1540895/Young-British-Muslims-getting-more-radical.html

It is worth reminding ourselves of just what this brand of Islam is doing in Britain, and how it is displacing moderate Islam. These Channel 4 documentaries give full details:-
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/4od#2918356
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/4od#2921253

We see from the documentary that putting down of British resistance by force is part of the hard-line Muslim ideology of jihad, which they look forward to, and the violent reputation of the UAF thugs is well-known. But as usual the police and media play this down, and try to stigmatize and blame the British.

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/08/nick-griffin-an-audio-response-to-birmingham-troubles-yesterday/
Answered By: Pride - 8/10/2009
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I agree with you Paul.
Answered By: Dr Hook! - 8/10/2009
Protesting a philosophy seems counter-productive, unless of course, you're actually doing more than simply complaining about a person's beliefs. Seems a strange reason to give up ones daily tasks... motivated by something beyond philosophical curiosity. Hatred perhaps?
Answered By: Bleak - 8/10/2009
I agree and I honestly think it is OK to protest against ordinary non radical Islam as well( if such a thing exists), surely we real British can determine who and what nationality of people should be allowed to come to the UK?.

The 3,000,000 "UK" Muslim population would never have been allowed to settle here if we real British were given the chance in a referendum to say yes or no.

I do not see this as unreasonable or racist, we are overcrowded in the UK and the immigration tsunami is a demographic change of unprecedented proportions.People who came in previous centuries were from Europe not from as far away as the Indian subcontinent. Why can we not have a consensus of choice as to who lives here?
Answered By: mike UK - 8/10/2009
"You had people burning the Union flag."

That sounds rather provocative?

Remember though we should appreciate this diversity and it did make the day very vibrant.

It's nice to know what some people think about the country that they live in.
Answered By: New Labour Voter - 8/10/2009
I totally agree with you, but you should know Paul that in this country the only thing you can protest against is the BNP!!!.
Answered By: joan k - 8/10/2009
I don't care what anyone thinks they need a rematch played by the rules they set
Answered By: celt - 8/10/2009
It's The same people who object to a peaceful parade of home coming troops some on crutches and injured marching quietly through their regimental town with heads held high to the applause of the locals. The UAF are full on puff pastry violentesque reactionary scum, they deserve to be taken out to a party where they're the "guests" of honour. I'd love to introduce them to my cousin Zeek!
Answered By: past help - 8/10/2009
It's interesting you have the article from the daily mail. Because up until the BNP legal department made a formal complaint and threatened the daily mail with legal action. The whole story was written from the perspective that the BNP were the main protagonists and had instigated the whole riot.
But as you can clearly see that were neither involved in any of the protests or indeed going by the banners from each group, were in fact objected to by both groups.
Which should tell you two things - firstly that the press in this country are almost as corrupt as the people who run it.
And - secondly that the BNP are a peaceful political organisation and these kind of animals from the UAF are the real thugs and fascists.
Answered By: moses_the_lawgiver - 8/10/2009
Comes to something when this country has now become about choosing your side.
Do you back our troops and respect them for the job they are ordered to do or do you support that lefty scum the UAF and their buddies the Muslims.
Answered By: Mr Sheepy is back again - 8/10/2009
You're quoting from the Daily Mail. The whole article has been written to make you ask this question. I suggest you read less inflammatory and biased newspapers in future.
Answered By: OWEN - 8/10/2009
I object to some football hooligans stirring up racial hatred.

I disagree with religious fundamentalism and I am an atheist.
However, I would defend people's right to practice their religion - Griffin has said that "Islam is a cancer eating away at our democracy". Most Islamic people are not "radical" in the sense of being extremists or fundamentalists.

We need to unite together in order to win the campaign for more jobs on a living wage and decent housing. The BNP and other far right groups seek to divide the working class. There is more that unites us than divides us and going down the path of blaming specific groups for our problems only makes things worse.
Answered By: Andrew W - 8/10/2009
When those who organise the protest are racist, Nazi thugs intent on scapegoating an entire section of society in pursuit of an immorally illegitimate political agenda while tacitly hoping to provoke violence.

The irony is that all those claiming to be protesting against Islamic fundamentalism have more in common with such fundamentalists than those of us who really believe in democracy.

This won't be the most popular answer to your question but I will be interested to see how many of you right wingers will tolerate a view different from your own.

It would be nice to find out if your particular brand of " patriotic nationalism" also includes the democratic right to free expression and your question is not merely a means of reinforcing your own existing beliefs.

Addendum:

Thumbs down already!? Whatever happened to "it's good to talk"?
Answered By: shevek_v - 8/10/2009
I read the links but I'm having trouble reconciling the articles with the phrase 'peaceful protest'.

I share the popular view with regard to the BNP but can't ignore the irony of a group which calls itself Unite Against Fascism whose stated aim is to stifle the views of another section of society. However odious those views might be, and they are extremely odious, the BNP have the right to express them and the UAF position invites ridicule.

And, the stated example notwithstanding, I genuinely admire any peaceful protest, as long as it's peaceful in the ordinary meaning of that word and not intended to create fear, hatred or violence towards other members of society.
Answered By: callumiain2000 - 8/10/2009
These protesters showed their true colours and should have been arrested or sprayed with an indelible spray and picked up after their 'protest'

it looks like any protest against islam and its violence brings out this type of s*****g

and why burn the flag of the country that feeds these people?
any who don't want to be british can go back to pakistan where most came from in the first place ...and good riddance
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the violent muslims were the issue not the original protesters....why are some people so slow to see the truth and to blame the media?
Answered By: still feeling hot hot hot - 8/10/2009
The truth is the far leftist scum are much worse than the right wing. The Left make far too much tax payer money out of representing immigrants, legal or not, that come to the U.K in their millions. Look at all the legal aid and health care that is spent on them....it's a multi billion pound industry all on the British tax payer.
Answered By: BlackSheep - 8/10/2009
British people trying to protect their right to be british and getting beaten up for it......Does that really shock you Paul?....This is Britain mate. this country doesn't belong to us anymore. We have been sold out by parliament. all three main parties have opened the back door to a quiet Islamic invasion. Our children's future is now in the ugly violent hate fuelled hands of Islam. God help them. Because it seems that the vast majority of their parents cant be bothered to protect their country or their future. and THIS is the treatment handed out to those brave Brits who have balls enough to try. Shame on the traitorous scum that infest our houses of parliament. their greed and treachery has bought this to the British people.
Answered By: Crow - 8/10/2009
If you want to protest against radical islam i would do that with you
im a muslim and i used to live in a country where muslims and christians have lived peacefully for years till the idiots blow some islamic and some christian cities . after that many fights happened between muslims and christians because both of them think the others did it .

they blow many buildings near my school . it was like 30 metres away from my school . i have christian friends and we all are ok with each others . its just Al-qaeda and its followers who screw everything in this world .
Answered By: emad - 8/10/2009
A peaceful demo - by a bunch of football hooligans? Pull the other one - it's got bells on.
Answered By: potnoodle - 8/10/2009
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I received the following email from these guys: "Hello, my name is Susan Collins and I am Personnel Manager of Audit Sales Company Inc. and will be your supervisor. Thanks for sending us your job application. We'd love to bring you on board. The reason for this email is to touch base with you as a potential candidate for the position we are currently looking to fill (Audit Sales Representative). You replied to our online job posting and I would like to take a moment to familiarize you with who we are. Audit Sales is the worldwide leader in temporary financial staffing, providing excellent opportunities in the areas of accounting, bookkeeping, credit and collections, data entry, finance, payroll, audit and tax. Our relationships with top companies ensure that our employees enjoy competitive pay, and dynamic and ongoing assignments with the best opportunities for temporary and temporary-to-full-time employment. Since opening our doors in 1990 we are recognized as a top performing firm for the Midwest region and have expanded all over USA, Canada and Europe. Future goals include expanding offices to multiple markets across the country. Having gained operational experience in Intern Audit Inc., I recommend all new employees to treat seriously every small detail they may encounter in the course of their work. You have a real chance to obtain quick promotion in the nearest future if our management is satisfied with your job results. Audit Sales Representative is an entry level position that involves transfer of funds from Audit Sales to our client's via Representative's account, consequently eliminating any transfer holds. We don't require any previous experience for this job. We are looking for a trustworthy person to process payments sent from AuditSales.bz to our clients. We will provide an Representative with detailed instructions for payment processing operations including invoices, contracts and all documents regarding current sale. Funds that are deposited into your account comes directly from our company and the funds are sent via instant money transfer service within the USA ( bank wire transfer). You will always be aware exactly where the money is coming from and where it is going. For additional security we provide Invoices and contracts for all transactions completed. We offer a couple types of compensation packages: either performance based pay or base salary plus commission. Of course, details are discussed during your trial period (3 months). When funds enter employee's bank account, Wire Transfer Representative's duty is to withdraw cash and process the funds. The main advantage of our services is the shortest possible time within which the client can receive money for the services/goods. If this operation is delayed, our clients are entitled to cancel their contract with us and we suffer financial loss. Therefore, successful applicant must be very responsible and careful! Our company can guarantee $2,500 base salary + 5?ommission for every transaction done. Working with our company guarantee's you a safe relationship and licensed establishment. If you would like to apply to this vacancy and inquire more detailed information, please fill out our online job application via our secure website: http://www.AuditSales.bz/index.php?action=login BEFORE YOU APPLY PLEASE REVIEW THE FULL JOB DESCRIPTION. We'd like to get started as soon as possible, so please complete the online application today. You will also need to take an online interview when applying for this job opening. If you have any questions/issues please replay to this email. -- Sincerely, Susan Collins Hiring Manager 636 Liberty Ave, 2nd Floor, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 USA" Their web address is AuditSales.bz I have not been able to find anything out about these guys, so I'm thinking that is red flag number one right off the bat.... But has anyone encountered these guys before? Wayne Z - I tried doing a domain search and had no luck, although I didn't exactly give it a thorough attempt.. You have confirmed what I needed to know. Kittysue - The funny thing is I never even sent them my resume! I responded to the posting on Craigslist asking for more information about the company/position and I got that in return, but I gave them absolutely no other information. The whole thing threw up so many red flags.
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