There is no such thing as free health care. Someone has to pay for it, if you don't then it's the middle class that does. Guess what? I'm in that middle class and I'm being taxed to death right now. I'm having trouble supporting my family because of all my taxes. That's what I have a problem with!!
Answered By: blt830 - 12/8/2009 |
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They have a Problem with Government taking the tax paying Dollars and using it for Meaningless Garbage, Health Care and a Public Option ain't Meaningless at all, No System is Perfect
France has the Best Health Care System in the world, No French, British or Dutch Person Rich or Poor has a Problem with the Government Run Health Care system, what the alternative having Private Companies Deny you Coverage because you don't have $5,600.00.
In America they cancel your coverage because you don't have the Money and they don't cover you this needs to pass in the US sEnate otherwise things will get worse for the Consumer who have No Business to attack Government Run Health Care.
Answered By: tfoley5000 - 12/8/2009 |
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It is naive to believe anything is free, that's why it's called "Free-Dumb"
Answered By: World War III - 12/8/2009 |
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Why the problem, Eve? Because many Americans know that nothing is absolutely free. That dates back to the whole Trojan Horse thing. Once bitten, twice shy.
"Wealthiest" we are in may ways, and "poor" depends how you look at it. Both are relative terms.
"Buck up" our ideas? I don't know that term, but if you mean "back up" - and intend to mean put our ideas into action ... well, that takes time in a democratic nation.
Yes, the President will make a difference - for good or bad is yet to be seen.
Peace and love.
Answered By: John M - 12/8/2009 |
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You prefer your system, I prefer mine.
Answered By: Dutch - 12/8/2009 |
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Who says we have the poorest healthcare? Europeans or those factions on the left that want to control another part of our lives. The mystique about what makes America great is that we prefer to be responsible for our own lives and not rely on the government to do anything, because EVERY time the government gets involved in our personal lives they screw it up. How much do you know about the failure of the current programs such as social security, medicare, public housing, food stamps-all abject failures.
Answered By: cc is psyched! - 12/8/2009 |
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Its not about providing free health care..its about how are we going to pay for it. If you look at anything that the government has run you will be hard pressed to find anything that it has done well. I am not for throwing money that we do not have at something that the government cant run any more efficiently than its already being done, It will cost the average tax payer and yet they cant tell us how they are going to pay for it. Thats what the issue really is...and after studying the UK health model, I would rather have it this way.
Answered By: George - 12/8/2009 |
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Well, all the other answerer's said it as well. It's not going to be free, it's going to cost a bundle. And the people who will pay the most are the ones that are already suffering from a burdensome local, state and federal tax system. Additionally, many of us don't agree with specifics of the proposed program, such as funding for abortion on demand, reducing the Medicare budget which currently covers most of our elderly and the proposals to require the elderly to have routine counseling sessions regarding euthanasia.
Besides, I have to wonder, if the proposed Healthcare plan is so wonderful, why is it that the elected officials who are trying to jamb it down our throats, won't have the very same coverage. They have "their own plan", which they continue to maintain even after they leave office. So maybe what they are recommending for us, isn't that great after all. HMMMM.
Answered By: sunybuni - 12/8/2009 |
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It started with Ronald Reagan. The amoral politicos watched and learned from Reagan how to manipulate the press, the government and the people. Geo. Bush was a Neocon, i.e., Reaganite. All he did was manipulate for his Administration's personal advantage. Europeans are immensely sensible. Americans are propagandized and manipulated by factions that are able to convince them that what is good for the amoral corporation is good for them. Clinton pandered to them and it appears that Obama will as well. There is an extremely belligerent faction in this country financed by these corporations and their propaganda that apparently must be appeased. I, as an American, thought it was only a phase. That cooler heads and sound reasoning would prevail at some point. I was in college during the Reagan administration. We could intellectually and morally see what he was doing to our country but he won the hearts of those who were deceived by his rhetoric. The poor became the enemy. So did liberals who wanted progressive change. Less spending for the military, more spending for improving the lives of the American people by means of education, health care, infrastructure. The only governmental spending that Neocons approve of is for the Pentagon, i.e., war mongering.
Our country is a mess right now because no one can right the wrongs of lobbyists controlling Congress, corporations controlling public opinion, the press controlled by celebrity. America has gone crazy. We've peaked as a nation and we have nothing but hell to pay for this madness at some point in time, not far in the future. I have health care provided by the company I work for and yet I see so much waste and fraud and abuse. The critics of government run health care claim there will be waste, fraud and abuse. Well? My dad's on Medicare and the hospital charged him $158,000 for an operation to install a pacemaker. It was submitted to Medicare and they paid $29,000. My brother is on the hospital board and he asked if they lost money on that. Of course not, the administrator told him. If he had been without insurance he would have had to pay the entire amount of the bill or go bankrupt when the hospital was making money at $29,000. This is what we have now.
Answered By: Scruffer - 12/8/2009 |
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Not that simple--not even close--put it this way, i'm a healthy 30 year old male who goes to the doctor once every 2 years--why should my tax dollars pay for someone who goes 5 times a year or more?? or for someones expensive surgery??? would i be taxed the same way as someone who goes 5 times a year??
Answered By: Maine Boy (formerly NYBoy) - 12/8/2009 |
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We should all pay for a health care system because we all benefit from each other, or at least that's the idea. The current system is a farce and only those who have not had to contend with the disgraceful actions of insurance companies stand up for it. You say we live in America and should make the decisions about our lives, but that's just it, we are not making those decisions, the insurance companies are. They answer to nobody and we just keep paying the increases or cancel our policies with nobody to complain to.
If you have a family with children then 'YES' you should be forced into paying for family health care, it's your duty to provide the appropriate care for your family. However, nothing is for free and it is not the British who go round saying they have free health care, they know full well they pay for it through taxes. Unfortunately many Americans don't actually know what they are complaining about with the proposed health care package, they are badly informed by either the media or people with ulterior motives. I have heard so much said about the package and found a lot of it to be lies after reading with my own eyes and not taking somebody elses misinformed opinion on the matter.
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Ender,
Yes but people are denied healthcare by their insurance company here in the states and they end up dying because they dont get treatment. What the heck is the difference?
Also how can you base one case that you know of as an opinion of British healthcare? You can't! The problem is the situation I mention above about American healthcare insurance has happened numerous times!
The arguments against the health care proposals are just pathetic! There is talk about a lack of treatment due to it. Well people are getting a lack of treatment now because they either dont have insurance or their insurance is denied when they need it. Why because these insurance companies are in control of your health! Do you not see what is before your eyes? It may as well be the government in charge because it most certainly is not us Americans that are in control of our own health care.
Also take a look at France, their healthcare is rated as the best in the World by WHO. Yes, WHO and the opposition to this health care bill refuse to acknowledge the official world body on health care! I am losing my rag here because we keep getting fed BS everyday regarding this and it is beginning to make me sick! How you can put money before somebodies health is beyond me, which is exactly what we have in place right NOW!
I will tell you this right now, it may not be free, but it is a d**n sight cheaper than what we are all paying for right now. I can guarantee that you wont be paying thousands in taxes every month like some families are now for their health care insurance! It also wont lower your standard in care either because we are not the best now, even though we pay more than anybody else! It will force health care providers to lower their costs, they wont have a choice!
Oh and on choice I like choice very much, America land of the free and all that! The only problem is, is that we dont realize our healthcare system has never been about choice, what choice do you have when your diagnosed with cancer and can't afford treatment?
Answered By: Jackie - 12/8/2009 |
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The US government is dead broke. It has no wealth, only debt. The wealth that you're referring to is not owned by the US government but by individuals. Last I checked builders didn't build hospitals for free. Doctors don't work for free and neither do nurses. Drugs don't invent themselves. Nothing about it is free, so why do you pretend like it is???
The problem is that health care in the US abandoned free market principles decades ago. Once no one was concerned about costs, costs skyrocketed. The solution is to get the government out of health care, not more intimately involved.
Edit: My brother is a physician. About a month ago he treated a British man who was 47 years old. He'd seen the doctors in England three time. Each time they gave him some pain meds. No tests, no scans, no blood tests. By the time my brother saw him, he did a simple blood test and found very late stage renal cancer. He told the guy that he had a month to live. The bottom line is that the British health care system killed this man. People in America don't go that long without being diagnosed. Enjoy the British system while you're healthy.
Answered By: Ender - 12/8/2009 |
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"Why do some Americans have such a problem with free Healthcare?"
Cause its not free.....
Answered By: captainkbt - 12/8/2009 |
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