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Jobs in China---Very depressed, can anyone give me info?

For a long time now, I've wanted to have a job where I could travel back and forth from USA to China. Two things have prevented my taking action on this-- my stepfather was terminally ill with cancer for 4 years (he died recently) and also I was finishing my undergraduate degree in drips and drabs. I was thinking at first to get a job teaching, but this really isn't practical for me. I'm almost 40 and don't think I could make enough money to maintain a private medical insurance policy in USA (very expensive) while working in China. Please don't criticize me for this by saying I don't need to purchase insurance or that schools in China will insure me. Maybe a 25 yr old doesn't have to worry about medical insurance like I would at 39. If I were to get diagnosed with a serious illness I'd want to return home to be with my family while receiving treatment. Surely people can understand this. Everyone in my family almost has had a serious illness ...So being able to pay hundreds of dollars per month to maintain a good USA insurance policy is a priority for me and would also assuage their anxieties were I to live abroad.

I thought that I could look for a job in my current field-- Customer service quality assurance and training. However, outsourcing of customer service isn't big in China like it is in India or the Philippines... and the few jobs I see on search engines are part-time, only.

I really don't know where to start making my dreams become a reality. I'm almost done with my undergarduate degree, finally, and I don't know if I should get a masters in teaching or human resources, in order to have better job prospects. I've been studying Chinese for 6 yrs and can speak, read and write fairly well... but I'm not that social (not a lot of time on my hands) so I don't have any good connections with people who could advise me.

Nobody in my life understands why I have this unrelenting desire to work in China. I'd like to travel to other places, too, to work but my primary interest is Asia. One thing that makes this whole process more difficult is I'm really established at my job-- 12 yrs-- so I really want to be confident in my decision before leaving it (again, I'm not in my 20's when most people flit around from job to job) and also my mother does everything she can to discourage me from the idea of leaving her (hence, the need to travel back-and-forth, not just permanently reside in China without any anticpation of return.)

Does anyone here have any advice? Please, please *constructive advice,* only. Thank you.
Thanks BSherman. Your answer is the most insightful of all thus far! I knew I could rely on you.

Asked By: Jebbie - 12/27/2009
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Jebbie, I'm in my mid-to-late-40's so I understand exactly what you are saying about the insurance issue. I also have two children who need insurance as well. For us, we were fortunate enough to sell at house at the peak of the California real estate market so we are able to supplement our Chinese income with our investments.

Our in-China income is more than enough to support our family of four in-country. Our university pays for our air tickets to/from the US, but not for our children. Our China income does not provide enough for their tickets and for costs of visiting the US each year. However, we work for local universities and not in the private sector. Our investments cover our Stateside expenses, as well as our insurance costs.

You may want to consider finding an international insurance company that would cover catastrophic events like a serious illness or something that needs additional attention. We pay for our annual check-ups in the States and haven't had to make a claim. I pay for my own mammograms rather than filing an insurance claim. This keeps us "off the radar" and keeps our insurance costs low. Additionally, I've used SOS services in Beijing a couple of times and the one time that I needed additional tests, etc., I had it done in Hong Kong. Much cheaper than the States.

If you are hired as a "foreign-hire" then your cost goes up significantly for your company. You'd need to have special skills to justify that cost. However, if you are able to network your skills in an area where there are jobs, then you will have a way to keep aware of the openings.

I suggest you check the American Chamber of Commerce in Beijing. http://www.amchamchina.org/jobs

Also try to find out a list of major corporations in China and log into their jobs available pages. Many international companies have need of those from their home country as well as local hires.

If you feel that teaching isn't "your thing" then it's important to recognize that. The bar for teaching is being raised each year and simply being a native speaker is no longer enough to get a job. Yes, private schools are notorious for hiring anyone and everyone who can speak English, but as education progresses, those schools will be subject to more intense evaluations, etc. I know one of the largest private school chains in the country (New Oriental) has opened in my city and charges a TON of money for a student to take classes (5,000 yuan for two weeks) and parents pay it, thinking that the cost must mean it's a good program. These same students return to their regular schools (high school) where they also have native English teachers with teaching skills and there is no improvement and nothing to show for the cost except for bragging rights that "I took a course at New Oriental."

Congratulations on your degree! If you've managed to get a degree while working, you've shown a "stick-to-it" attitude that will take you far in life! I'm sure your dream of working in China will come true. It just may take some time.

Good luck!
Answered By: Craftylass - 12/27/2009
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Hi there, i just wanted to offer a little advice, and i'm not telling u not to come, china can be a fantastic experience, i've lived here over 4 years, but if you suffer depression like i do it can be hell.

before u come just be aware that while in china you are on your own. no proper health care, no western anti depressants, no councelling, no support network - it can be downright isolating. i only mention this because it is something you should concider.

on the jobs front, i'd recommend contacting major hotels (the mariot, the sheriton, etc) especially as you already speak chinese, or doing a teaching stint, which in the bigger cities can pay quite well with no expenses.

good luck and live life. life is too short to wait.

if you make it over here feel free to email me.
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Answered By: Kat - 12/30/2009
I fully understand you, just dont give up, your instincts is your best guidance. Have you tried approaching all the foreign companies, esp those from your country in China? They may have something open for you, get started by acquiring a list of companies from your country's chamber of commerce or business associations. Your spoken Chinese should be better than mine, so I think you'll be alright. Good luck!
Answered By: Don - 12/29/2009
Hi,

I have lived in China for 8 years and love it. Teaching jobs in major cities are easy to find although some require a TOEFL certificate - easy to get online. I make about $2500 per month and live comfortably. Just as a side note, I came here after 6 bypass surgery and have no medical insurance. Hospitals in major cities are excellent and not expensive. It costs about $2 or 3 dollars to see a doctor! I live in Shanghai and although it is the most expensive city in mainland China I live comfortably. Chinese students are very cooperative and eager to learn English. Your age is good for the Chinese - it represents maturity and stability. Teachers are well respected and honored. I teach privately soliciting students who post ads on the internet. I make about $40 per hour. Your knowledge of Chinese is a definite advantage and will help you in your travels to inland cities. China is an exciting place - full of adventure and history. Be prepared for a culture shock but with your knowledge of the language everything will fit into place. One bit of advice - stop worrying about your age! My God, you are only 40 and only halfway through your life. I came here when I was 60 and now am 68! I live one day at a time and enjoy the happiness of my daily existence. Stop dreaming your life away - make the decision and come on over! Good luck, be brave, be strong, and leave the worrying behind you.
Answered By: Lloyd - 12/27/2009
Your posting reminds me of the old Bob Seger song "Beautiful Loser". You want the security of your present circumstances, but dream of life in an exotic country. You just can't have it all. You must choose . . . as the song says . . .

He wants to dream like a young man
With the wisdom of an old man
He wants his home and security
He wants to live like a sailor at sea

Beautiful loser
Where you gonna fall?
When you realize
You just can't have it all
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Answered By: BSherman - 12/27/2009
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