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How much sense does the basic philosophy behind liberalism make?

The word "change". Change to what? Why? Is it always necessary? What about the people that do not want change and are not hurting anybody?

If one wants to change something-say the economy, they must want to change it to some other state. But if liberalism flourishes, then obviously the state the economy is in must keep changing even after the objective state is achieved.

So is there even an objective to begin with?

Change the tax rate. To what? Keep raising it? When will enough be enough? Will it always be changing? Why?

If there is any sanity in liberalism, it must have a goal or a dream-which by nature would have to be a conservative one-something that is good enough. Or else it has to admit the same thing conservatives have been saying all along: that this is an imperfect world in which utopia is an impossible goal.
It seems to me like a ride in a car with no destination and no end ever planned. What is the point of political change?

Asked By: Commander McBragg - 1/29/2010
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The basic philosophy of liberalism is the desire for control over people and the expansion of government to further this purpose.


Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He makes it with a machine he could not possibly have made himself. He does not know where it was made, or how it works, and may not care. He does not know the people that planted, cultivated, harvested, dried, roasted, packaged, freighted, warehoused, distributed, marketed, or retailed his coffee, and may not care. The company that insures the manufacturer of the coffee machine required that it meet certain safety guidelines, as established by the private insurance-company-funded Underwriters Laboratory. Joe has seen the UL mark, but is not really sure what it's for or how it protects him. He doesn't clearly understand why greedy businessmen might be interested in a safe product. All of this was made possible by libertarians who fought for and won the legal right to free trade.

He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water which he bought from Ozarka, because the local government monopoly of water supply bears the comforting designation of "accepted" and also tastes funny.

He thinks back to going to church on Sunday. He is happy to have a community where he can participate with other like-minded people in ceremony. This was made possible by the long struggle to disentangle church and state, and his church enjoys the absence of taxation. He wishes other aspects of his life could be so free.

He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee, and then he takes a long drag on a cigarette. He bought his medication while on a trip to Mexico, where, thanks to less regulation and looser enforcement of IP laws, they were much cheaper. His medications are safe to take because he bought them from a reputable dealer. He can still afford cigarettes and can still legally purchase them, because of those who continue to fight for his rights, even if his exercise of those rights might harm him or his family.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; it is fragranced with some sort of exotic flower and there are strange chemicals in it - god knows what - and he bought it, well, because he liked the picture of the kangaroo on the bottle. He luxuriates in his bourgeois moment in the shower, a luxury unavailable to even the most wealthy of only 200 years ago. He is able to have many of such seemingly simple luxuries because some greedy businessmen sought enormous profits in the only way they could: satisfying consumer demand.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because the accumulation of capital over centuries has now brought the discounted marginal value product of a schmuck like Joe to unimaginable heights. Joe doesn't know anything about economics because he doesn't have to. He is no smarter than his forbears, and he works less. Nonetheless, because he participates in a world-embracing division of labor where his specialized work on a growing capital base is greatly valued, he is richer.

Joe's employer pays these standards because if they don't, his employer's competitors will.

It's noon time, Joe doesn't need to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills - he uses online banking and direct deposit. He has no idea how these systems work, or what a banking clearinghouse is, but he is able to use these services at the lowest cost practicable because banks compete for his business. Notwithstanding the massive interventions to the business of banking, such as the creation of central banking and the Federal Reserve system and the repudiation of the gold standard, he is able to weather the government-induced business cycles and inflation by investing in mutual funds, annuities, stocks, bonds, REITs, real estate, and other investment vehicles. He is able to do this because of greedy entrepreneurs and libertarians who fought against usury laws.

The online banking leaves him free to take a moment to browse amazon.com for his favorite books, movies, and music.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is not among the safest in the world because he chose not to buy a Volvo. His brother has a Volvo, but he has a gas-guzzling muscle car. He has this choice because nationalization of the auto industry was prevented.

He arrives at his rural boyhood home. The house didn't have any good programming choices until DirecTV offered an array of programming and high-speed internet, too. His dad uses a VCR, which only became affordable to him after lots of rich people bought the early, expensive versions and the manufacturers improved the designs and cut costs. In fact, his dad has a cell phone, TiVo, refrigerator, microwave oven, and a CD player - all of which became affordable to him because they were first the toys of the super-rich, and the crackpot schemes financed by the wealthy entrepreneurs willing and able to risk their money.
Answered By: Heather - 1/29/2010
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"A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN"

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his federally underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

The house didn't have electricity until some liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
Answered By: г๏๓คгє - 1/29/2010
The basic philosophy of liberalism is mastery -- permitting others to live their lives only as another sees fit.
Answered By: MTV Please Pimp My Ride!!! - 1/29/2010
The immunization drugs that liberals developed to keep themselves alive has also kept America's village idiots alive too. Most unfortunately, the village idiots are most apt to be against any planned parenthood.

That is the reason that there is such a thing as a Republican Party. Liberals have inadvertently kept the village idiots alive.

In the natural order of things the infirm are suppose to die. Liberals have created a queer situation in nature.
Answered By: Unka Dano - 1/29/2010
I think you mean to help other people. That is not a bad philosophy.
Answered By: Darwin - 1/29/2010
The basic philosophy behind liberalism is Liberty for all. It doesn't tend to work out that way very often though.

The philosophy behind conservatism is for ever dollar you spend you need to take a dollar from something else, but that doesn't seem to happen anymore either. Conservatives say they are against big government, but they don't care how badly the government encroaches on it's citizens. The government only cares about keeping the wealthy, and corporations happy.
Answered By: Special Forces Squirrel - 1/29/2010
Change is inevitable. Everybody likes change. Everybody wants change. The same old thing over and over again is boring.

People evolve, technology evolves, times evolve.

Even Conservatives desire change.
Answered By: Herb - 1/29/2010
A lot. It's very similar to the basic philosophy behind Christianity. "Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you."

Contrast that to conservatives' philosophy: "Do unto others before they get a chance to do unto you."

"Change" isn't the basic philosophy of liberalism. Change is what liberals feel needs to be done because the country has been pulled too far to the right, and our people and economy have suffered greatly because of it.
Answered By: Chewy Ivan 2 - 1/29/2010
When Bill Clinton took office in 1992, the nation was in recession.
When he left office in 2001 and George W. Bush took office, there was a 2 billion dollar surplus.
When GWB left office in 2009 and Obama took office, there was a three trillion dollar deficit.

Ok, I know what you're going to say, Obama has been president for a year and the debt has been even bigger. But just remember, Rome wasn't built in a day, or even a year. AND the reason why the debt is bigger is because Obama took out money for the surplus. If he hadn't done that, we would have had another Great Depression like in the 1930's.
Answered By: Wild Sage - 1/29/2010
The point of political change is to grow with the living document that is our Constitution. It was not meant to halt any progression of greatness, it is a document that gives all Americans sure footing on the road to achieving greater goals with every passing generation.
Answered By: navymom - 1/29/2010
The communities that are the happiest and the best have close cooperation between them and they all help each other like family...
Answered By: Chupate esa! - 1/29/2010
One big o!
Answered By: Jake Rather - 1/29/2010
I wouldn't say that "change" is the basic philosophy behind Liberalism. Change is the nature of life. Your body ages, your relationships change, your career changes and our country, economically, culturally and politically changes also. Change is an inevitable train chugging along the tracks. Liberalism attempts (often mistakenly, and incorrectly) to adapt to the change; Conservatism wants to just stop the train.
Answered By: hiztreebuff - 1/29/2010
I think the basic philosophy behind liberalism is ok, it is the execution of it with out concern for the long term affects it causes or the affect it has on others besides the ones needing help. I mean it is great to help some one out that needs help, but putting in place a system that encourages a person to not find work and be content to live in poverty to get that government check, generation after generation after generation is wrong. So like I said, they idea was good but the execution of it has been a total failure and I think that is the problem with liberals, their heart is in the right place but the brain ain't in gear.
Answered By: warren v - 1/29/2010
The goal of Liberalism is and always has been a good one: to create a fairer and more equal society, where those who need a hand up can get it and those who are fine as they are can get on with their own lives in their own way in peace.

The problem has never been the goal, which is perfectly humane and reasonable. It is always the implementation. Too many liberals believe that it is possible to change the world in a few short years (It's not: true change takes generations) and when it doesn't happen, they get impatient and start legislating instead of having the patience to work for change over time.

This is why 'Liberalism' so often ends in dictatorship. It's not a lack of goals, nor a lack of virtue - it's a lack of patience and a fundamental failure to understand the true nature of people.
Answered By: Elliot Kane - 1/29/2010
What you are describing sounds more like Progressivism that liberalism. The progressives have hijacked the democratic party under the liberal label.
Answered By: Concerned - 1/29/2010
You're fundamentally wrong. The basic philosophy behind liberalism is that you are and ought to be government property.

ps - Joe has an aftermarket filter on his tap to get-out the toxins liberals DEMAND be in his water. His brother died of an illness treatable YEARS earlier but delayed by the FDA literally for the sake of delay and nothing else.
I can go-on but the page is long-enough already.
Answered By: Peace through blinding force - 1/29/2010
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