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Where are good sites to apply for veterans only jobs?

That offer clerical/secretarial work that do not require a college a degree and respect four years of service in the USAF as something equivalent to that of a college degree? I live in an extremely liberal town near two colleges and they appear to not show any indication of hiring a veteran here in North Carolina.

What are some good sites to apply for and what are the qualifications for veterans preference?

Asked By: Jason - 3/7/2010
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Military only? Face it, the economy sucks. The job market is a "buyers market" -- you being one of the millions of sellers. You're going to have to compete with people with AA/AS or even BA/BS degrees.

My second career after retiring from the Navy was as contract manager in government contracts for a management consulting firm. I hired vets all the time. But I was extremely selective. Guys with only one hitch under their belts didn't usually make it past the waste basket. A knowledgeable hiring manager is likely to see, especially in this "volunteer" system, a one-shot wonder as one who joined only for the benefits, one who was unmotivated, or one who was unable to make a go of a job that provided extremely good benefits and training or whose only purpose was a bullet on their resume. I didn't want that kind of guy on my team. I may have ignored some quality people, but my retention rate went from about 60?hen I took over to 95?client satisfaction improved, and on contracts with which I was involved in negotiating we never missed a deadline nor went over budget.

An employer is out for his company. He may have to give you a Veterans preference all else being equal. But as a prospective employee, just being a veteran isn't going to do much for you.

That may not be your situation. You might be just a victim of under utilization, but that's the stigma you're going to be bucking. I met this girl working as a receptionist at an optician's office. We got to talking and I found out she had a baccalaureate in engineering. I asked her why she was working as a receptionist with an aerospace company down the road. She said she'd applied and was just filling in to pay the bills while they (among others) were looking at her applications, and while she was looking. Maybe that's a little thing, but it impressed me as somebody who didn't sit around whining and demanding more. I asked her to send me her resume. I hired her to help design an automated warehouse... at about five times the salary she was getting as a receptionist. I understand that she contacted the aerospace company and told them she was working for our company on a development project and asked if that would be a problem. She said they told her the job for which she applied was hers as soon as she was available.

Where to look? Contractors with government contracts. Contractors with military contracts might be better. Contractors with Air Force contracts might be even better. And, if you had recommendations from your former supervisors... or COs.

It wold be easier had you some practical experience that would be difficult for civilians to get... like forklift operator, electronics tech, or avionics tech. You might hope to get a hiring manager who was an Air Force officer... but there aren't too many of those. Most Air Force officers don't seem to be particularly good managers. They get jobs flying planes for the airlines.

Other places? I don't know how lucrative the sites are, but I believe I've seen "placement assistant" links on some military sites.

How to look? Write a killer resume. Find out what the companies to which you're applying are looking for. Not just job skills but corporate culture and mission. Find their Web sites and learn about the companies. Find out about the executives. Read their bios... remember the idea about applying to ex-Air Force guys... but only do it if you're record is exemplary. Find everything about the companies you can. And then tailor a resume to each of them. Sound like a pain? How about being unemployed? And the longer you're out of work, the harder it becomes to get it.

In your resume, tell them what you accomplished in the military rather than the kinds of jobs you did... unless it's absolutely pertinent to the job you're seeking. It's more important that you transcribed notes from the CO to SECDEF earning recognition by both than that you were an "admin specialist" (or whatever). For example, I met a kid while I was at the Pentagon. He was an E-5. But he developed a presentation that impressed the Admiral. The Admiral used the same presentation and impressed SECNAV. SECNAV used the same presentation and impressed SECDEF who told all the branches that was the format in which they were to make their presentations. He was only a Navy Journalist... an E-5.

Cover the resume with a short, cogent, well thought out letter. Address it to an appropriate manager... or even VP if the level of the position indicates it.

You can have a resume "professionally prepared." But they're only good for generic resumes. The resume you write reflects you, and your knowledge of the company to which you're applying. While professionally prepared resumes may look good, in my experience, first impression is the letter. If it's targeted and pertinent (not generic), that get s interest. a generic reference doesn't substantiate the letter, the resume is either on the bottom of the stack, or it's filed in the circular file.

I got my job because of my military experience (25 years), my management experience (about 20 years as a Navy Officer), my (then) recent security clearance, my education (I went in with a BA in math and got a couple more degrees on the GI Bill after I retired from the Navy), and my exposure to the government bureaucracy (six years at the Pentagon).

What to expect? Right now? A whole lot of being turned down. Maybe a minimum wage.

Sorry guy, but unless the recruiter who told you a four-year hitch in the Air Force was a shoe-in for a civilian job wants to hire you, you might have to use your GI Bill and get your BA/BS... or at least an AA/AS.

ADDENDA:

As far as credits for service... some schools advertise that they'll give you a couple of credits for service. But you might be blowing elective credits. You'll want them when you're inundated with upper division classes in your major.

Those who recommend going for officer, possibly have never in the military, and most likely have never been an officer. And enlisted folks tend to have more respect for guys who've had some enlisted experience.

But those who recommend getting your degree on your own... excellent idea.
Answered By: gugliamo00 - 3/7/2010
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Here's the portals to every North Carolina and federal government opening:

http://www.usajobs.gov/
http://www.osp.state.nc.us/jobs/
Answered By: His Dideeness - 3/7/2010
There is no such thing actually as veterans' only jobs. That would be a discriminatory hiring practice. Veterans can claim credit for their service as an equivalence to college classwork. North carolina, liberals, and colleges in general do not discriminate against veterans
Answered By: fangtaiyang - 3/7/2010
There are no jobs that only require you to be a vet. You must also have civilian education qualifications unless your military occupation directly transfers to the particular job that you are applying for. This is not liberal nor conservative, employers hire people who have the skills that they need to operate their business. Instead of being mad at the employers, take advantage of your GI Bill and get skills. I am a veteran and come from a family of vets and each one of us has had to have additional job training or college when we got out of the service. You should consider checking your state's government job openings because several states do provide vets with veterans preference when hiring.
Answered By: Sandra M - 3/7/2010
I second His Didness' websites. . . . .

You aren't getting hired because of liberals. . .I am stationed at a liberal university. . .which participates 100?n the Yellow Ribbon program and I am surrounded by veterans, both staff and faculty. The President is retired Army and even the librarian is retired Army .

Having said that, they prefer veterans with a degree vs a veteran without one.

You should have gone through TAPS when you separated which would have provided you with multiple websites and a resume workshop. If you still have the material they gave you, you may want to dig it out and apply what they taught you.
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Answered By: cordeliabrainiac - 3/7/2010
No such thing as a Vet only job, as was stated that is illegal. they can certainly be given prefernce, but you cannot be hired solely beciuase you are a Veteran.

additionally in no way whatsoever could miltary service EVER be construed( and rightfully so) as equivalent to a 4 year degree.

you must meet all stated requirements first. Veteran's preferance merely means that given 2 equally qualified resumes, the one with the Veteran's status wil be considered first.

nearly every Federal job out there requries a 4 year degree. Take your GI Bill and put it to good use.
Answered By: Mrsjvb - 3/7/2010
While he didn't do your internet search for you (and I think it's probably something you should have already done or you're not trying very hard), Gugliamo gave it to you straight.

In case you haven't noticed, it looks like people are joining the military because there aren't any jobs in the civilian world.
Answered By: HF - 3/7/2010
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