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Even today I hear liberals talking about lowering health care costs. Did they not see the news last night?

"WASHINGTON – It was a bold response to skyrocketing health insurance premiums. President Barack Obama would give federal authorities the power to block unreasonable rate hikes. Yet when Democrats unveiled the final, incarnation of their health care bill this week, the proposal was nowhere to be found."

So now the government is forcing people to buy health insurance from big corporations who can charge whatever they want. This seems like the opposite if what liberals are advertising.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_obama_s_promises

Asked By: Andy - 3/20/2010
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The ideologies of Marxism/ socialism/ communism have infected our American culture. Because Americans who lived in eras where these ugly ideologies wreaked havoc on the world were critical of them, proponents began to call themselves something more appealing- "progressives". In socialism, a central government controls the production of goods services for equal distribution to all members. Communists typically employ this by more militant means. Progressives more cunningly achieve this by entitlement programs, law, regulation burdensome taxation.

Despite their hopeful sounding name, progressives utilize the constant mantra of "change" are generally intolerable of anything traditional that provides social structure, including concrete morals, religious teachings original meanings of the U.S. Constitution, hence the moral digression. They have a tendency to confuse earned privileges with entitlements then accuse the opposition of withholding so-called "rights". They popularized "political correctness" redefined "tolerance" "diversity". They frown upon "old ways of thinking" (President Obama's own words). Interestingly, the majority of today's Democratic politicians are members of socialist "progressive" caucuses.

One can examine our culture today see evidence of such Marxist ills: The current health care bill makes federal funding for abortion accessible to lower class women who, with their children, would be considered a drain on the system amounts to eugenics (selective human breeding); Aversion to all things religious, i.e. controversies over 10 Commandment monuments, traditional marriage, etc.; Government control of businesses, like with bailouts, carbon taxes health care business takeovers; Totalitarian rule similar to how the current Administration Majority members are behaving, i.e. the unprofessional tongue lashing the President gave Republicans Supreme Court Justices in the State of the Union Address. Other things are more subtle like indoctrination through educational systems, media other propaganda. These have all been practiced by despotic regimes of the past that America considered her enemies detested because of their depraved philosophies resultant brutalities.

Consider the failing socialistic entitlement program of Social Security. Their recent publication stated the "Board of Trustees now estimates that based on current law, in 2041, the Trust Funds will be depleted. Because people are living longer and the birth rate is low, the ratio of workers to beneficiaries is falling." It went on to "reassure" me that it could still "pay about $780 for every $1,000 in benefits scheduled." Nice ROI. We've tried socialism its not financially sustainable, proving once again the government can do a worse job managing investing your money than you can. Do you really want an amoral, money-hungry government in your health care business? Our government is way out of its functional jurisdiction of providing order national security.

Moral issues notwithstanding, giving control of various things to the government equals giving up personal freedom. Many fought to obtain our freedoms for us. We must fight to maintain our freedom or we will have to fight harder to get it back. Progressives, keep your change. I'll keep my freedom. Encourage your representatives today to vote down costly Obamacare any big government legislation.
Answered By: Controlled Enthusiasm - 3/20/2010
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Http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/02/13/anthem-blue-cross-rate-increase-business-as-usual/
Feinstein Blasts Calif. Insurer Over Rate Increase
By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN
Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, sharply criticized Anthem Blue Cross of California on Tuesday over its plans to raise health insurance premiums by as much as 39 percent, and she said that the move provided a vivid example of why major health care legislation is needed.
http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/02/13/anthem-blue-cross-rate-increase-business-as-usual/
California panel wants say on health insurance rate hikes
Assembly committee passes a bill requiring companies to justify increases. The measure faces an uncertain future in the full Legislature amid an industry lobbying effort.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-health-insure24-2010mar24,0,2531845.story,..Here is the TRUE story, But we dont care whats TRUE, Just what Fox tells you is good enough,
Answered By: All Religion is Pagan - 3/24/2010
Ya think? A complete and total disaster? Not doing what it is supposed to do? Magically destroying the greatest health care system in the world and slamming us into total govt dependence? Maybe the vast majority of Americans had a solid read on this all along. Shame about them not being real and all.
Answered By: paul s - 3/24/2010
Your mistake is taking a news story at carte blanche. Why do you think this is the "final" word on health care and health care financing? There are a number of additional proposals being launched almost immediately on both sides of the aisle.
Answered By: AndrewM - 3/23/2010
In 2011, ALL tax-brackets get the largest single-year tax-rate increase ever seen by any civilization in history. These are the same people who ACTUALLY call THAT "tax-cuts for 95?f Americans."

ALL liberal programs do the OPPOSITE of their claimed intent - and EXACTLY what conservatives predict they will do. No exceptions - ever.
Answered By: Peace through blinding force - 3/22/2010
AND THE DEFICIT WILL ACTUALLY GO UP. The accounting tricks and lies are already being shown. THIS IS A JOB KILLER BILL
Answered By: downwithsocialists - 3/20/2010
No I didn't watch the news. I watched Faux.
Answered By: Daniel D - 3/20/2010
Most states already block insurers from unnecessary rate hikes. If they don't, they need to. They have the power to do it.


Also, that provision was most likely taken out of the bill because of a Corporatist Republican or the Senator from Aetna (Joe Lieberman)
Answered By: Quan - 3/20/2010
The libs on here aren't paying attention to facts about costs and deficits.

Obama wants a feather in his cap at any cost.

His sheep just want a win because they think this is just a sport.
Answered By: ME - 3/20/2010
Obama and the libs hate America, no other way to say it
Answered By: John 15:20 - 3/20/2010
Those pesky facts just get in the way of the message.

Like "if you like your insurance you can keep what you have". The CBO estimates that up to 18 million will lose their current insurance.
Answered By: imaxkr - 3/20/2010
Tell the truth. Help others. Think for yourself.

Annoy a conservative.
Answered By: James - 3/20/2010
Partisan obstruction blocked both single payer and a government option from being viable. If you got a t**d, blame yourself.
Answered By: neil s - 3/20/2010
For sure the Insurance companies are and will raise the rates.

One of the main reason behind rate increase is the Skyrocketing cost of Medical Care. The largest contributor to this high cost is Fraud, gouging and over billing from the Medical Industry.

30?f all Medical bills are over billed and contains fraud.

Nothing in the Health Care Bill provides anything that will control or eliminate this Fraud.

However Obama's Health Care program does provide for 1.6 Billion a year in PORK.
Answered By: Innocent - 3/20/2010
To bad the connies would not support the bill when it was better. It is still an improvement over the current system and the side car will fix a lot of problems in the bill.

Isn't the filibuster wonderful. We could have the public option, a widely popular feature, except for 46 votes in the senate.
Answered By: Igor T. Unspeakable - 3/20/2010
Lying and fraud are a way of life for Democrats.

Welcome to the Obama nation.
Answered By: gws35 - 3/20/2010
No, I didn't see the news last night. I did see the big error in your logic though. Obama wants the authority to block big rate increases. That's diametrically opposed to the "charge whatever they want" phrase in your rant.
Answered By: Free At Last - 3/20/2010
You can blame the con's for that little deletion.Obama is so set on getting the health care bill passed that he's having to give up the parts that the con's want left-in.It's all about money.The doctors,insurance and drug companies will slice it up until you won't be able to recognize it as a health bill that might save us money.We need to sack up washington and drop them in the potomac river.
Answered By: Lee - 3/20/2010
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