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Did not know.! this question is pretty lengthy because all the Obama supporters always find ways on this site to side-step direct questions, so i do not want to leave any room for error. When Obama was Campaigning he said all bills would be posted on the web 5 days before there was a vote, however with health insurance they did not, the bill was not even complete. Now i can only think of two reasons for this. 1. Obama is a liar and never intended to post it. or 2. he new about the Mandate that basically forces people to buy health insurance and he simply did not want to answer questions about it. Your opinion please?
Then there are those who say the economy has grown, however in 12 states unemployment is at record highs while Obama is telling the world to attack us and we will sit back, and while he is still campaigning for his Health care "REFORM," or so called. Why is Obama not working on jobs why is Michigan in double digit unemployment, why is our National Debt STILL growing under Obama and why is he still Campaigning for health insurance? your opinion Please?
Then there is the Fact that our men and women who Obama promised to bring home has not brought them home, they are fighting and dieing for countries and people who do not respect them nor want them there and we say nothing, yet when Bush was in Office we protested to bring our troops home. Were are those Protest now?
And finally for people who said Obama had to spend more to get us out of Debt, no he did not, Obama has only used about 30?f HIS stimulus plan, and now he is using more money to pay for GOVERNMENT RUN JOBS. The Bush Bail-out basically stabilized the Banks and now Obama is just handing out free money and causing us more debt. So with the knowledge that only About 30?f his 716 Trillion dollar Stimulus has been spent why are people not protesting against more money being handed out.? How is this helping our Economy.? and why do people see this as GOOD GOVERNANCE? your opinion please?
(one more thing for those who think i hate Obama, no i do not, I like Obama as a person whoever i do disagree with his Policies and the path he is taking our country and the way he is dividing this country.)

Asked By: jack - 4/9/2010
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*sigh* Stop listening to Glenn Beck as your primary source of information and try reading.

To answer you points and not "sidestep" a single one.
A. The bill was posted in advance,..try checking your facts. In fact many different versions (as they were being edited and different parts were being incorporated,…Hmm looks like most of them were either directly suggested by republicans or had several republican supporters *before* the GOP put up it’s “Let’s just screw America and not vote on anything” policy.
What wasn't posted was the version that passed because it went through reconciliation and the GOP killed a few things in it (like the Pell grants that people need to help with college) way to show em there! Those kids not getting grants sure does blacken the eye of the dems....uh what?

So to point 1. A he didn't lie whoever told you he lied, lied to you. 2. See #1

Your second paragraph shows a complete lack of understanding as to what happened BEFORE Obama took office. The out of control spending of the prior administration had all but bankrupt the country already, the financial housing crisis due to Bush Policy was about to hit and there was also another meltdown in small business lending. This was already a train moving towards a cliff when Obama was sworn in. When he got in office, the housing market collapsed and the administration basically went into crisis mode (at this point he had done NOTHING wrong)

think about it like this,..if you bought a house for 300K and then got into a car wreck w/out insurance and got sued for 1million dollars......What would you have to do?
Maybe you could refinance your house,..but OUCH that costs money up front,..but the benefit is that your monthly house payments go down!

So the Administration did a lot of things that people hate because they cost a lot of money in a time when people were hurting. "We're bankrupt and now you want to spend more money" Yeah,..spending that money makes the refinancing happen and the monthly payments go down and you can actually buy groceries that month. People HATE THIS. Mainly because as Americans we're selfish and whiney and aren't willing to sacrifice anything for the good of the country. So people are p****d off that a problem that occurred over 6+ years, didn't get fixed in one year. We're an instant gratification country with a short attention span. If people had ANY idea of what kind of financial shape we would be in if stimulus money hadn't been injected into the economy they'd freak out.

Yes unemployment is high in areas like Michigan are high,..they were high BEFORE, and when things got bad they became even worse. Some areas are seeing a turnaround, some areas won't for a long time.

"Why is our national debt still growing under Obama?"
Really,....seriously you’re that ignorant of the US financial state. The deficit is going to grow for at least 6 years no matter WHO is in the white house,..we were that screwed up financially. And Bush wasting the small safety brake of cash surplus that Clinton built up in a heartbeat didn't help things.

The national debt won't even begin to turn around in the course of 1 or 2 presidents,..so if all your Obama bashing is based on the national debt you really need to take an economics class.

the big reason he campaigned for health care reform,...the same reason the GOP campaigned against it,...they both have powerful lobbyists that give them money and power to pass/not pass it.
The side benefit of it passing as opposed to not passing is that it lowers the overall cost of healthcare in the US. It's like me saying "Hey I know your car has a flat tire, and the brakes are about to go out, you average getting towed once a month at a cost of $40,...but I'm going to buy a AAA card, if you help me pay for half ($100) I'll let you use it so you can get towed for free. Yes the GOP freaks out "LOOK HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING" but it slows the growth of that debt that you were so worried about earlier in your question.

As for troops returning home,...The protests don't happen now because he's keeping his word,..thus no need to protest. He never said "I will have every US soldier Home by X date" he said I want to have troops begin pulling out by X and hand over the government by X" And he was only referring to Iraq. So that has happened. The Alternative was McCain’s policy of "let them stay there until we say not to? So you're basically arguing that Obama's plan was the right one, he's just not fast enough for your tastes? Welcome to life, I can't get the phone company to do anything on time, you honestly thing the government can make a schedule Democrat or Republican?

And Finally,..Government run jobs ARE Stimulus,..*sigh* again a basic knowledge of finances would really help you here. Any NEW job no matter where it is helps remove unemployment and gives people a paycheck to spend on goods and services.

Also the Bush Bailout was $700 billion dollars against an issue t
Answered By: Questionablequestions - 4/9/2010
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The Senate bill (the one that was passed into law) was put online in December 2009.

The House amendments ("fixes") were put online a week before the vote.

I don't have the energy to read the rest of your question.
Answered By: tonalc2 - 4/9/2010
OBAMA IS A FAILURE !!!!
Answered By: Diane W - 4/9/2010
Obama is a disgrace.
Answered By: Herman - 4/9/2010
I won't side step questions, but I'm going to point out that your question is more a bias statement. Nothing more than an opinion. You choose the gloom and doom perception because it suits your purpose. 300,000,000 people in this country all think America should go down a certain path and most are not the same path.
Answered By: Put down the crack pipe - 4/9/2010
Thanks for the rant...

Obama's made some mistakes... I'll give you that... he's broken some promises...

but Obama did pass the stimulus... that's something... it's clearly had some positve impact... maybe not everywhere, but some... 300 trillion of it was tax cuts...

much of the stimulus actually helped keep the states out of big budget trouble... it payed state workers so they wouldn't get fired... in red and blue states...

that wouldn't help the economy... that's a plain and basic fact...

I know of no magic bullet to "fix" the economy... and it seems you're mad that Obama hasn't found it and used it...

it took Reagan 3 years to fix an economy that may not be as bad as this one... and I think he did a decent job of it...

I don't even know if Obama is as good as Reagan was... but even if he is... it will take a while...
Answered By: g - 4/9/2010
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