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What do you think of Americas health care system? I think the doctors are overpaid. I think the insurance companies charge to much for drugs. I have seen insurance companies turn people down for cancer treatment because they ''are to young to have cervix cancer.'' I have seen hospitals dump people off the hospital bed once they can not pay the bill. One lady had Alzheimer she did not know were she was when they dumped her. Another one had a broken hip and open stitches, broken collar bone. The hospital kicked her out of the bed and put her in a cab pushed her out of it. They did not even tell her where she was going.

Whats funny is the only place in America that has universal health care is guantanamo bay. The only people who do get universal health care is the people who blew up the twin towers. When Bush passed a bill saying it was good health care for the older folks. He really gave the drugs to the insurance companies it was a bill they passed saying they can charge what ever price they want to on drugs.


Bush even congratulated a 60 year old woman for working three jobs. Just to pay for her medications. She should be resting NOT WORKING! I think we should do socialist health care. It works for Europe, France they get right in and out.

I am a college 19 year old that works my butt off! I come from a wealthy family. I had insurance but they did not pay for my operation for my appendix. Now if I did not have allot money in the bank. I would of never been ale to go to school like I am now.I never be able to go to school when I am in hospital debt.

It all started in 1971 with president Nixon was on the phone. He wnated a way to get money. The other guy on the phone like well we can just cut back health care. So that's what the insurance companies do now. Their has been people that have been denied to get paid for their (cancer treatment) because they had a east-infection in their passed.

How well a society treats those that can not take care of themselves. Is what it says about that society. Everyone says I work for my money. Well, is it fair to make a 60 year old work three jobs to pay for medicine. One medical mess up most people can not go to college. Everyone says republicans are for those who work. Jut because people do not come from good families. Should they get denied health care?

We are 27 on the list of health care.We have a higher infant death rate than Somalia. Everyone says my thinking is socialistic that's right before communist. Well, it does not decide who gets health care who does not. Insurance companies already do that. the insurance company bought out our government to pass the law to have control of all drugs. One day you could get cancer need a quarter of a million dollar operation. The insurance company could deny you for saying ''it is experimental''.Is it fair to say you should of worked for your money?
Most doctors get paid about 2 million a yar. WHy do they need five sports cars? What a millions not enough?
YES! IT TRUE IT HAPPENS HERE IN AMERICA! OPEN YOUR EYES.I CAN SHOW YOU FOOTAGE JUST SEND ME A EMAIL I'LL SHOW YOU A 60 YEAR OLD WOMAN GETTING KICKED OUT OF THE HOSPITAL. JUST WATCH SICKO.
I CAN PROVE MY FACTS WATCH THIS http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/
REAL EVENTS
What happens when you are old? You have to work 3 jobs at 60 years old to pay for your medication to stay alive?
I am in med school I am going to school to be a doctor.
* Brain/doctor:$450,00-$650,000
* Anesthesiology: $306,964
* Surgery, general: $255,438
* Obstetrics/gynecology: $233,061
* Psychiatry: $163,144
* Internal medicine: $155,530
* Pediatrics/adolescent medicine: $152,690
* Family practice (without obstetrics): $150,267
* ER doctors get paid 215,000+ a year (This is from the Medical Group Management Association, Physician Compensation and Production Report, 2003, as reprinted in the Department of Labor's career outlook handbook.)
Okay, maybe doctors do not make that much. Perhaps I was mistaken for give me.
I was exaggerating on the doctor part. If we had free college their be no loans to pay off. Socialist college.

Asked By: stacy heart - 8/20/2010
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At some point, the doctor is going to have to decide whether he wants to follow the Hippocratic oath or the Obamacratic oath. When the interest of the patient and the doctor are not in alignment, how is he going to make a decision as to what is the right thing to do when faced with the realities of federal law that says something different?

At the heart of Obamacare is more government regulation. While it’s true that more families will be covered under the law, the new entitlement comes with strings attached. Families that take advantage of the affordability tax credits won’t have the option to purchase cheaper insurance plans across state lines and aren’t allowed to buy family-friendly plans.

It’s going to reduce choice because now we have politicians deciding upon who are the winners and the losers, what treatments doctors can perform and get paid for, and what treatments the government says, ‘No, this is not a valid treatment and we’re not going to pay for this. That’s absolutely going to reduce choice — not just in the quantity of doctors, but in the available treatments.

Under the new health care law, that’s exactly what could happen. Obamacare undermines the role of parents by encouraging contraception and abortion without respecting parental consent. School-based health centers will receive $50 million per year to promote such options as contraception and abortion. An additional $75 million per year funds Personal Responsibility Education grants to help states reduce pregnancies.

With the government taking on a greater role, where does that leave a parent. This law sends a message to my children and future Americans that they’re not competent, they can’t take care of themselves, government has to step in to take care of them. We’re taking these basic moral obligations away from ourselves, from our churches, our synagogues, our civic organizations, and we’re delegating these responsibilities to government. I don’t understand that. o_O

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Answered By: ArizonaItsAllGood - 8/20/2010
Doctors,overpaid?




You do know what they go through right? They'ree paid to SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES!

I think they'ree just right.

Edit: My dad is paid $125 and makes 300k a year? And those making a million a year,they do emergency room,surgeons,diagnosis jobs.
Seen that video btw,its because of the healthcare bill...
Answered By: Jacob - 8/20/2010
Don't read rants this long...hope you feel better though
Answered By: Dem Spin - 8/20/2010
LIE! Not in this country. You have NEVER seen anyone dumped from a hospital bed for not being able to pay.
Answered By: Alden Nash - 8/20/2010
Doctors spent a lot of money going to medical school,
and malpractice insurance is expensive.

They're not as rich as you might imagine.


Most of them make 150k-200k/year.

The ones that actually make big money (400k/year),
are heart surgeons and brain surgeons who have enormous responsibilities.
Answered By: Rush Limbo - 8/20/2010
Your complete lack of any facts and willingness to lie to prove a point that is nonexistent is interesting. You will make a fine liberal when you grow up.
Answered By: Patient Sailor reborn - 8/20/2010
They have 5 cars because they can. God Bless America.

Never post a link to a Michael Moore movie and expect to be taken seriously.
Answered By: progressiveDownhill38 - 8/20/2010
"Most" doctors are making well under $200,000 a year. What planet are you on? Maybe some plastic surgeons in Beverly Hills pull in millions but the masses don't. They go to school for years, work like dogs in residency and start out making less than most kids right out of college. I get it. You want the 60 year old woman to not have to pay for her medical care. Who should pay for it then? Are you volunteering to pay for it? I can appreciate that you want to live in an ideal society but this is the real world.
Answered By: Luv2Answer - 8/20/2010
I think you should stop posting novellas as questions.

If you think doctors make too much money go to college for four years, then go to medical school for four more years, graduate up to your eyeballs in debt, do an internship for 3 years and possibly specialize for up to six years, then work 18 hours a day six a days a week. You obviously know nothing about being a doctor. Perhaps you would prefer that you get a discount surgeon? Think about that for a while. Doctors do NOT make $2 million a year - only some rare specialists do. Where are you getting this nonsense?
Answered By: Paul Hxyz - 8/20/2010
You're an idiot who knows nothing about doctors' incomes. My father is an allergist who stays up until one in the morning almost every night, and he doesn't even earn close to that. The people who make all the money DO WORK HARD FOR IT. They study there butts off in school, take up most of their free time working for their practices, I think they definitely deserve the income. Do you really believe that working at the drive-thru of McDonald's is hard work? Wake up to reality buddy.

And if you really use a Michael Moore film as a source, you truly have the I.Q. of an ant
Answered By: That Guy From The Beach - 8/20/2010
Oh yes, hospital dumping should be banned and 1 pill shouldn't cost $200.

"Well, is it fair to make a 60 year old work three jobs to pay for medicine. " to a conservative yes.
Everyone knows that people with no health care, often wait till its too late. Conservatives are faghs.
Though I disagree with doctors being overpaid. It's the technology and drugs. Not doctors.
They have a stressful job, that's why physician suicide is more common.
Answered By: American Youth! - 8/20/2010
Innuendo and anecdotal evidence aside. I don't buy your "examples". A large majority of Americans were more than satisfied with their health care. Oh and most doctors don't get paid 2 million a year LOL!!!
Answered By: Rob71 - 8/20/2010
You think Doctors are paid too much , because you never had to become a Doctor. Most Doctors don't make that much. If you look what A General Practitioner has to go through, and look how measly their pay is, you would feel sorry for them rather than hate them. You complain about our medical system, I just got a visit from my relatives in canada. They are mad at Obama for moving our countries medical system closer to theirs. They complain that their doctors are MURDERERS. They have a serious problem of Misdiagnosing cancer. Because pay are so low, they are complaining they don't udnerstand their doctor because he's from Cuba. The doctor gave them the incorrect drugs because of their drug buying policy, which Obama is trying to install in the US. People did not understand what Obama's death panel is. he wants a group of people to decide what drugs to give all the patients for that disease with out seeing these patients. Just one flat drug, but the problem is that not all drugs work right for the same people Wwe now discover some drugs work better on some races and what they do in Canada is a one drug treats all theory. Doctors probably can ask for a varience, but the system makes it unlikely. And it's a lie, that most doctors get 2 million a year, and they have to pay high insurance. Look at the net, rather than gross income. As for our helath problems it's because people are fat not because of our medical system and we now learn that the life span has been falsified in favor of socialist countries. Japan is finding out because they give money to the elderly people hide the fact their family member died their for Japans life span is lower than what the survey shows. As for Experimental drugs, Obama wants to outlaw experimentation on patient, remember the panel again.





**** YOU wrote they make 2 million a year, then you give a list of pay of various doctors, and none of them is over 2 million.


IN the Hospital I work, Chief of surgery made under $150K Most of the staff makes just over 100K . That was 5 years ago. They don't have to pay for medical insurance though and they have reduce legal worries as well. We rarely have any decent doctors in our facility and tend to attract those who want reduce legal culpability. We do have some really good research doctors though. They might get grant money on the side. Some general practitioners make under 100K after all the cost are figures in, and in California, $100 K is considered middle class unfortunately.
Answered By: slew - 8/20/2010
I had an ruptured aneurysm in my brain and the bill for brain surgery was $350,000....I sat in the ER waiting room for 4.5 hrs before ever being seen...I had to scream at the top of my lungs to get attention and when I did I got bit*hed out by the hospital staff before a nurse or doctor looked at me. When I finally saw a doctor he was p****d because he was out on a date when he was called in. I was informed it was all my fault and I was made to feel like my life was really not important....the doctors personal life was. After tests were done I was asked by this doctor if I wanted him to do the surgery...I told him, "No. Your hands will not be inside my head. You're an arrogant b*****d and I want another doctor."

The doctor that saved my life was from Austraila. He hadn't been a surgeon for long and I was his first attempt at this particular procedure. After I was out of the hospital recovering I went to his office for a follow up. I told him I was happy to be alive but that I now was in debt so far to him I could never take care of that responsibility....this man wrote off every penny I owed him and my bill went to 50K.

True story. Take what you want from it.
Answered By: chevypirate - 8/20/2010
Don't you know how long a person has to attend medical school before they become a doctor? Do you know that from one mistake a doctor could lose his job and face malpractice and other evil lawsuits? 600,000 a year? That sounds fair. After all a doctor spends about half a decade or more in medical school so that they can become a doctor, not only that but the profession of a doctor is so limited not only alongside that but also the medical equipment that is used to test and diagnose diseases in a hospital is limited therefore the price of pharmaceutical supplies will go up. A doctor, in my opinion is paid with a worthy salary. You try to treat patients with the salary you suggest with the amount of schooling that is required to become a doctor. If you spent half a decade in school you probably would want a DECENT salary.





Am I wrong?



EDIT

I CALCULATED THE COST OF TUITION FOR A PRIVATE MEDICAL SCHOOL OF SOMEONE ATTENDING FOR 8 YEARS. See the results below.


I found a website that calculates the cost of going to medical school. I calculated that I would be going to medical school for 8 years, I calculated that I would be going to a private college, I calculated that it would be at least five years before I go, I then got these results listed IN THE LINK BELOW.


http://apps.collegeboard.com/fincalc/servlet/calculateServlet?method=cost


The overall costs of the college is $400,000! I choose the "save 35?option so I would have actually paid $566,000 if I didn't choose that option. That is insane. I believe that doctors are paid appropriately after the amount of money they pay for college.






Now do realize that I didn't even mention the cost of books for college which I heard go for thousands of dollars and if the person is therefor 8 years and could pay upwards to 3,000 dollars for books then that is 24,000 dollars total for books.
Answered By: Lord Jeeves - 8/20/2010
Doctors are not overpaid. They do not begin to e********y until they are well into their 30s.
They can only work as long as they can effectively do the job. Hands shake, no operating.
Do you really believe a socialist college can produce as good an education as a Harvard or
a Vanderbilt?
When you get to retirement age, you have medicare insurance.
Answered By: katmandu_85219 - 8/20/2010
There are problems with the health care system (what huge system doesn't have problems?) but I think for an individual like me, $360 bucks a month is a pretty good deal, considering it pays for everything if something bad happened to me (like serious illness or an injury) and $20 per office visit is a pretty good deal, with $10 per perscription.

And if I worked for a large corporation, that monthly fee would be about $160 per month pay-roll deduct.

The problem as I see it is that (Kaiser Permanente) they'll "first" try the cheapest remedies before moving on to the "most effective" treatment in order to save money.

This usually means you have to expect the 1st one or two treatments to fail before you get the right one, and you end up getting "generic" drugs instead of the original ones (which are made better) but that's how they keep the costs down, so...

All in all it could be a lot worse...
Answered By: Pocket Protecktor - 8/20/2010
Doctors in some countries with NHC make about $40,000 a year. . . they probably don't have the best if they are only paying that little, why would anyone want to be a doctor.

Other countries put a cap on how much doctors can make. so most of them work until the reach their yearly income then take the rest of the year off. which leads to lack of doctors in the last months of the year.

you should do a little more research! it's not as black and white as you seem to think it is.
Answered By: froghugger - 8/20/2010
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