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Why don't people realize both Reaganomics and Obamanomics are both garbage economic theories?

Instead of following the economic policies of all of his predecessors, which virtually remained unchanged, Reagan decided to try something new. 1981 Reagan signed legislation that would drastically reduce taxes for the wealthy and corporations. Following the tax cut, the deficit soared from 2.5 percent of GDP to over 6 percent, alarming financial markets, sending interest rates sky high, and culminating in the worst recession since the 1930's. He would not rescind the income tax cut, but other taxes were acceptable. In 1982, taxes were raised on gasoline and cigarettes, but the deficit hardly budged. In 1983, the president signed the biggest tax rise on payrolls, promising to create a surplus in the Social Security system, while knowing all along that the new revenue would be used to finance the deficit. Reagan dipped into Social Security funds extensively and now that system is nearly bankrupt.

On the other extreme, there is Obama, who thinks he can tax everyone sky high and simultaneously spend hundreds of billions of dollars to somehow bring this country back intro prosperity. He wants the money to flow from the wealthy to the poor, while poor people do not spend money, so that money will not be going into investing in the economy. His theory is just as bad as Reagan's. Why can't Obama try using Dwight D. Eisenhower's economic philosophy (rich are taxed higher than most other people, but at an amount that they can easily afford to pay and does not make them feel like they are being punished for being wealthy), for example, or virtually most of his predecessor's besides Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, and Bush 43?
The four clowns we had before Obama all had pretty poor economic philosophies, so that is why I said they should be excluded.
Well, I am not a Marxist, and not anywhere close (I am a moderate Republican). I think that being a Republican doesn't mean you have to support supply-side economics.

Asked By: - 8/22/2010
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EVERY president starting with Carter has failed utterly to address the root cause of our economic decline.

The USA was prosperous before Carter because we had a trade surplus. We were even a creditor nation before Carter.

The USA lost its trade surplus to foreign competition in 1980, during the Carter years. That's what caused the "stagflation" and "economic malaise" of the Carter years. In fact, our prosperity had been winding down throughout the 1970's as our trade surplus diminished.

Carter had no clue what to do, and the trade deficit escalated alarmingly. Reagan failed to act because he was from the generation that was permanently shellshocked by the Smoot Hawley tariff of 1930.

Reagan TEMPORARILY boosted the economy with borrowed money, making the USA a debtor nation by 1988. But the hoped for recovery didn't last, and the mounting debt dragged us down like lions taking down a water buffalo.

After Reagan, supply side economics mutated into the abomination of free trade. Bill Clitnon signed NAFTA and ushered in the "giant sucking sound" of jobs leaving the country.

Bush did nothing to address the problem, like father like son.

During the 2008 campaign, Obama specifically cited free trade as a cause of our unsustainable economy, and he blamed Republicans for it. But now that he is the president he is doing NOTHING about it.

WE MUST END FREE TRADE NOW or we will become a third world nation.

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/the-u.s.-middle-class-is-being-wiped-out-here's-the-stats-to-prove-it-520657.html?tickers=^DJI,^GSPC,SPY,MCD,WMT,XRT,DIA
The Middle Class in America Is Radically Shrinking. Here Are the Stats to Prove it
"the globalism and "free trade" that our politicians and business leaders insisted would be so good for us have had some rather nasty side effects. It turns out that they didn't tell us that the "global economy" would mean that middle class American workers would eventually have to directly compete for jobs with people on the other side of the world where there is no minimum wage and very few regulations. The big global corporations have greatly benefited by exploiting third world labor pools over the last several decades, but middle class American workers have increasingly found things to be very tough.

Here are the statistics to prove it:

• 83 percent of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1 percent of the people.
• 61 percent of Americans "always or usually" live paycheck to paycheck, which was up from 49 percent in 2008 and 43 percent in 2007.
• 66 percent of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1?f all Americans.
• 36 percent of Americans say that they don't contribute anything to retirement savings.
• A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement.
• 24 percent of American workers say that they have postponed their planned retirement age in the past year.
• Over 1.4 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009, which represented a 32 percent increase over 2008.
• Only the top 5 percent of U.S. households have earned enough additional income to match the rise in housing costs since 1975.
• For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share of residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual Americans put together.
• In 1950, the ratio of the average executive's paycheck to the average worker's paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one.
• As of 2007, the bottom 80 percent of American households held about 7?f the liquid financial assets.
• The bottom 50 percent of income earners in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth.
• Average Wall Street bonuses for 2009 were up 17 percent when compared with 2008.
• In the United States, the average federal worker now earns 60?ORE than the average worker in the private sector.
• The top 1 percent of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America's corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago.
• In America today, the average time needed to find a job has risen to a record 35.2 weeks.
• More than 40 percent of Americans who actually are employed are now working in service jobs, which are often very low paying.
• or the first time in U.S. history, more than 40 million Americans are on food stamps, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture projects that number will go up to 43 million Americans in 2011.
• This is what American workers now must compete against: in China a garment worker makes approximately 86 cents an hour and in Cambodia a garment worker makes approximately 22 cents an hour.
• Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years.
• Despite the financial crisis, the number of millionaires in the United States rose a whopping 16 percent to 7.8 million in 2009.
• The top 10 percent of Americans now earn around 50 percent of our national income.

Giant Sucking Sound

The reality is that no matter how smart, how strong, how educated or how hard working American workers are, they just cannot compete with people who are desperate to put in 10 to 12 hour days at less than a dollar an hour on the other side of the world. After all, what corporation in their right mind is going to pay an American worker 10 times more (plus benefits) to do the same job? The world is fundamentally changing. Wealth and power are rapidly becoming concentrated at the top and the big global corporations are making massive amounts of money. Meanwhile, the American middle class is being systematically wiped out of existence as U.S. workers are slowly being merged into the new "global" labor pool. "
Answered By: gws35 - 8/22/2010
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Reagan had a policy. supply side economics, trickle down economics, no tariffs( let our workers compete with 3rd world workers making pennies) and tax cuts for the rich

it was well defined

Obama doesnt seem to have a plan
Answered By: Dave87gn - 8/22/2010
Some of us do, we're called Marxist Lol
Answered By: Ryan - 8/22/2010
In your idyllic Eisenhower Administration, the Rich were taxed much higher than they currently are, and higher still than anything Obama would think of proposing.

In summary, your knowledge of history is woefully lacking.

EDIT:

Top US Marginal Income Tax Rates, 1913--2003

195084.36 400,000
195191 <5> 400,000
195292 <6> 400,000
195392 <6> 400,000
195491 <7> 400,000
195591 <7> 400,000
195691 <7> 400,000
...
200039.6 288,350
200139.1 297,350
200238.6 307,050
200335 311,950
Answered By: Jason K - 8/22/2010
Reagan's policies set the stage for 25 years of wonderful and almost uninterrupted economic prosperity in America. Obama's policies are destroying America. Let's not confuse them or equate them.
Answered By: Shovel Ready - 8/22/2010
But... but... if you dont tax at those rates, you cant spend at those rates.

i suggest you shrug off the old and start anew, markets may be similiar but are distinctly different from those of several decades ago.
Answered By: I AM A TROLLey -LOL- - 8/22/2010
I would remind you that under Eisenhower the high end individual tax rate was 90?In fact during the most prosperous years of the US, 1950 to around 1976, the high end tax rate was over 90?p to 1964 when it lowered to 71?Then in 1981 it was lowered to 39?nder Reagan. Obama is looking at raising it back to 39?nd you call it 'taxing everyone sky high'? Fact remains that for middle and lower income people Obama has lowered taxes.
Up to 1980 the US was the largest producer and exporter of consumable goods (TVs, ovens, refrigerators, etc), we are no longer. Up to 1980 the US the largest creditor nation in world, now we are one of largest debit nations. The fall of the US economy has been a direct result of the loss of manufacturing jobs which were, by and large, good paying union jobs (unions were 30?f the workforce in 1980, now we're at about 8? This resulted in the loss of the middle class in the US, the largest consumable group in the nation. The US is a nation of consumers. The quickest way to stimulate the economy is to put more disposable income into the hands of the largest consumer group, i.e. the poor and middle class. Obama is on the right track but it will take time and we have to rebuild the manufacturing industries.
Answered By: ndmagicman - 8/22/2010
Reagan's policies were founded in the understanding that people respond to incentives, Obama's policies are founded in envy and jealousy.
Answered By: Omega57 - 8/22/2010
You are materially, FACTUALLY wrong.
Reagan's fiscal policy DOUBLED INCOME. "Reagan's" deficit increase was ENTIRELY due to the massive increases in SPENDING that 100?f Congressional Democrats always demand each and every year of your lifetime and since long before.
Under Eisenhower, "the rich" who were highly taxed were so very few as to make no difference (except to themselves.) EVERYONE advocating similar top-rates today would ensnare a HUGE portion of the population and would GUARANTEE a harmful blow to the economy.
The LONG-PROVED FACT is that moving rates toward the revenue optimum ALWAYS increases revenue. We are presently ABOVE the optimum and thus we know indisputably that tax CUTS will bring more money IN. The hard part is preventing Democrats from overspending the INCREASED REVENUE as ALL Democrats ALWAYS demand without so much as a single exception - ever.
Answered By: Peace through blinding force - 8/22/2010
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Answered By: Southern Er - 8/22/2010
You don't seem to have a very good grasp of events during the Reagan years.

The interest rates were extremely high when Reagan came into office; his economic policies caused the interest rates to decrease significantly. Simply causing an increase in the budget deficit in the short term is not some kind of evil thing, but if it had been up to only Reagan, spending would not have increased.

You also seem to not understand that the Congress under Reagan was a Democrat majority in the House and a slim but liberal Republican majority in the Senate. In order to get his priority policies through - lower taxes, increase military spending, fight the commies, etc - he had, unlike Obama, to compromise with the liberal-minded congressional leadership. Thus he had to go along with their spending increases and bad legislation in order to implement more important policies.

And after Reagan's policies were enacted, the US went into a long and sustained period of economic growth.

As for the silliness about Social Security - the fact is that from the outset of the program, all excess revenues were designated as having to be used to buy US securities. The excess revenue has ALWAYS gone into the general fund.

Obama, on the other hand, had no opposition his party could not outvote, and his economic policies are sustaining the economic woes, just as the New Deal sustained the Depression for over 7 years, until WW2 started.
Answered By: Mjǫllnir - 8/22/2010
Although every Economic Theory must incorporate some sort of "trickle down" effect, there is a very big difference between the Reagan and the Obama policies.
Reagan policy allowed the wealthy to keep more of their own wealth in hopes that some of it would trickle down.
Obama policy is based on the idea of a trickle down stimulus. He has borrowed against the earnings of future taxpayers and given it to the wealthy in hopes that some of it will trickle down. But, then he has created uncertainty and fear among the wealthy with his tax proposals on them, causing a hoarding effect or "wait and see" attitude which has halted any chance of trickle down.
Answered By: YB Logical - 8/22/2010
Both ideas are Keynesian in nature, that Government controls the economics of the nation.this is false.

Need controls the economy. If you need something you earn the money for it, if you have extra income you buy desirable things like big screen tv.

Classical Economics is the only way. Read The Wealth of Nations, it works all others fail.
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2 answers - Asked By: tonnydanabwembya - 12/24/2005
I received the following email from these guys: "Hello, my name is Susan Collins and I am Personnel Manager of Audit Sales Company Inc. and will be your supervisor. Thanks for sending us your job application. We'd love to bring you on board. The reason for this email is to touch base with you as a potential candidate for the position we are currently looking to fill (Audit Sales Representative). You replied to our online job posting and I would like to take a moment to familiarize you with who we are. Audit Sales is the worldwide leader in temporary financial staffing, providing excellent opportunities in the areas of accounting, bookkeeping, credit and collections, data entry, finance, payroll, audit and tax. Our relationships with top companies ensure that our employees enjoy competitive pay, and dynamic and ongoing assignments with the best opportunities for temporary and temporary-to-full-time employment. Since opening our doors in 1990 we are recognized as a top performing firm for the Midwest region and have expanded all over USA, Canada and Europe. Future goals include expanding offices to multiple markets across the country. Having gained operational experience in Intern Audit Inc., I recommend all new employees to treat seriously every small detail they may encounter in the course of their work. You have a real chance to obtain quick promotion in the nearest future if our management is satisfied with your job results. Audit Sales Representative is an entry level position that involves transfer of funds from Audit Sales to our client's via Representative's account, consequently eliminating any transfer holds. We don't require any previous experience for this job. We are looking for a trustworthy person to process payments sent from AuditSales.bz to our clients. We will provide an Representative with detailed instructions for payment processing operations including invoices, contracts and all documents regarding current sale. Funds that are deposited into your account comes directly from our company and the funds are sent via instant money transfer service within the USA ( bank wire transfer). You will always be aware exactly where the money is coming from and where it is going. For additional security we provide Invoices and contracts for all transactions completed. We offer a couple types of compensation packages: either performance based pay or base salary plus commission. Of course, details are discussed during your trial period (3 months). When funds enter employee's bank account, Wire Transfer Representative's duty is to withdraw cash and process the funds. The main advantage of our services is the shortest possible time within which the client can receive money for the services/goods. If this operation is delayed, our clients are entitled to cancel their contract with us and we suffer financial loss. Therefore, successful applicant must be very responsible and careful! Our company can guarantee $2,500 base salary + 5?ommission for every transaction done. Working with our company guarantee's you a safe relationship and licensed establishment. If you would like to apply to this vacancy and inquire more detailed information, please fill out our online job application via our secure website: http://www.AuditSales.bz/index.php?action=login BEFORE YOU APPLY PLEASE REVIEW THE FULL JOB DESCRIPTION. We'd like to get started as soon as possible, so please complete the online application today. You will also need to take an online interview when applying for this job opening. If you have any questions/issues please replay to this email. -- Sincerely, Susan Collins Hiring Manager 636 Liberty Ave, 2nd Floor, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 USA" Their web address is AuditSales.bz I have not been able to find anything out about these guys, so I'm thinking that is red flag number one right off the bat.... But has anyone encountered these guys before? Wayne Z - I tried doing a domain search and had no luck, although I didn't exactly give it a thorough attempt.. You have confirmed what I needed to know. Kittysue - The funny thing is I never even sent them my resume! I responded to the posting on Craigslist asking for more information about the company/position and I got that in return, but I gave them absolutely no other information. The whole thing threw up so many red flags.
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