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US Army members: A couple questions for a short story I'm writing.?

I'm writing a short story for a creative writing course, which I'd like to be as accurate as possible. I've been doing research online, but a lot of sources contradict one another or don't go into what is typical/realistic, as opposed to what is technically correct. Figured it would be better to ask people who have army experience in order to keep things as realistic as possible. Setting is modern day, in Afghanistan.

1) Is 30ish (give or take) a realistic age for a sergeant (E-5)? How long would one typically serve as E-5 before being promoted to E-6?
2) Are there specific post-secondary degrees needed for a recruit to enter as a specialist, or is any university/college degree acceptable? Regardless of their technical status, in practice, would a specialist have any authority over privates? I know they can't give orders, but would they be expected to show initiative in making sure everyone else is doing what they're supposed to be doing? Are privates considered subordinates to specialists (in practice)?
3) What kind of weapons training, if any, might a typical field medic in Afghanistan have? Do medics hold any kind of rank? Would they simply be addressed as "medic" or something else? Would they answer to a sergeant or other NCO in the same manner as specialists and privates, or are they part of a different command structure altogether?
4) How much of the military slang in films is realistic? Anyone know of a site that lists military slang that is actually used, and not outdated?

Thanks :)

Asked By: Law & Order: Intarwebz Unit 3.0 - 9/11/2010
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1) Most E5s will be in their 20s. It can take anywhere from 1 year to forever to make E6 depending on education, training, Physical Fitness and your job (MOS) some jobs promote fast some slow.

2) If you have any BA you come in as an E4 even if it's in something that has nothing to do with the Army. E4s would definitely have authority over privates if they are the Team leader (they can even have authority over other E4s). A new E4 (or PV4 as I like to say) would not be put as a team leader if he had no experience in the army or as a leader.

3) Medics would be assigned a weapon and would be qualified on that weapon (most likely an M4 but it could be an M9 pistol or an M16 rifle), they would also have fired most crew served weapons in the unit at least one time so they would know how to use it. At unit level a medic could be anywhere from an E2 if they just showed up to E6 if they were the head medic but it all depends on the unit. The medic would work for whatever unit they are assigned to so he would probably work for the HQ PSG in a company or the PSG at a platoon. If no DR is around he may be called "Doc".

4) this is allot harder, without watching a movie I can't think of whats wrong off the top of my head.

Good Luck
Answered By: MP US Army - 9/11/2010
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1) E-5 is usually early 20s and the dwell time between E-5 and E-6 is dependent upon many factors such as their MOS (some have many more slots than others) and whether they busted there butt and received the promotion points needed. I made E-5 at 20 years old and E-6 at 22 (joined at 17), but I have actually seen Soldiers do 20 years and retire as a SGT(P) which is the lowest rank you can retire as.

2) As far as I know you have to have at least a bachelors to be E-4 coming in. And Specialist do have some authority over privates. They can also be put in leadership positions. I was a fire team leader as a Specialist.

3) Medics are issued weapons. I have seen medics with 9MM to the M-4. They are just suppose to use it to defend themselves or a patient. If a medic is good at his job he will usually earn the nick name "Doc". The medics follow the same promotion system as the rest of the enlisted MOSs.

4) http://www.spywriter.com/robots/military_slang.html

This site looks pretty accurate for the slang I noticed for the U.S. Army.
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SFC, U.S. Cavalry
Answered By: goldspursx3 - 9/11/2010
1. Im 22 years old and have been in the National Guard for 5+ years and have made E-5. Been to baghdad and plenty of other places I can't say... Matters how bad you want it...Do what your told and dont cause no friction...but also standing up for yourself as well.

2. Youll be treated the same until you come out of basic training( at least when I went in 2006)

3. You always respect rank... But most medics like to be called medic/ Doc. Depends on how you address yourself as what you want.

4.Military slang is battle budddy- the guy you bunk with- the one you know you can count on. - but as far as a web site... Im not saying there isn't one but not to my knowledge.
Answered By: Jonathan - 9/11/2010
1) Yes, that is perectly realistic. You'd typically serve for a few years as an E-5 before getting promoted. 3 years is probably a good number.
2) If you join the army with a 4 year degree, but don't go the OCS route, you will be an E-4 specialist. It doesn't matter what your degree is in. Basket weaving. It doesn't matter. Specialists definitely outrank privates, but you won't see a specialist making a private do pushups or anything. Unless a specialist is put in charge of a given situation, specialists and privates largely interact as equals, with the privates usually extending a bit of extra respect.
3) medics go through basic training and SOME additional combat training in AIT. They will also train with the unit they deploy with prior to deployment. In general, medics have more combat training than, say, an admin guy or a supply person, but a lot less than an infantryman. The exception here are ranger medics or SF medics, who have a ton of combat training, and a lot more medical training as well.
4) The movie Blackhawk Down has some good military slang that is still current. The TV show The Unit has a lot, too. Just sprinkle in some phrases like "hooah" (can mean anything except for no, but is usually an expression of enthusiasm or as "understood.") "roger" (means "yes.") "ate up" (not to military standards) and stuff like that.

Good luck!
Answered By: cailano - 9/11/2010
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1. There is no typical age for becoming a SGT (E-5), it depends on TIS and TIG (Time in Service and Time in Grade). You are then sent to a promotion board. If you are considered promotable, you then have to meet the point requirements for your MOS. Now back in my early years, a typical E5 would be in the age of mid 20s. Nowadays i have seen E5 at early 20s and even some E6 in early 20s. Once you reach E5 you must meet the TIS and TIG to be considered for the promotion board of E6. You can get a waiver for either the TIS or TIG provided they are available for your unit.

2. If you have at least a BC degree you should come in as a Specialist. A SPC would have authority over privates but realistic your E5 Sergeant will be in charge. As a SPC it is your job to show that you have leadership qualities and take the initiative when there is no NCO around. You should already be acting as a NCO as a SPC. Yes anyone that has less rank then you are considered your subordinates.

3. From my experience most junior medics have a M16A4. The officers will carry M9 pistols. Medics have the same ranking system as everyone else. Yes the rank structure is the same regardless of your MOS.

4. Slang is only what you consider it to be.
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Retired Military ( Marines & Army)
Answered By: Atruesoldier - 9/11/2010
1. You can make E4 in 18 months. If you are a Specialist you have the same authority as an E4 corporal. But the corporal is considered an NCO and a Specialist rank is not, no matter if they are E4, E5 or E6. You usually only see Spec 4s.
2. Generally you need a 4 year degree at least. Not sure about the specific degree requirements, but if it's a medical degree, as for a nurse, they come in as officers, generally speaking.
3. Medics have the same basic infantry training as any other soldier. Everyone is a soldier under the same command structures. Small groups of some MOSs (job fields) can be attached to infantry units, so they are under the command of the that unit's officers and NCOs.
4. Don't ever rely on hollywood or tv to teach you proper slang. It's often highly inaccurate, and it's faster to just learn the right jargon from a service member than it is to figure out what in film is incorrect. Just remember that the uses of terms does get outdated, and sometimes it varies based on type of service or MOS.
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writer and former service member
Answered By: D F - 9/11/2010
1) Assuming you joined the Army at 18, you can make E-5 Sgt by the time you are 22, mid twenties at the latest. All of my current E-6 SSG's are 26-27-29. So that should tell you something. And my old SSG just turned 24.

2) To join as a SPC you need to have a 4 year bachelors degree, any degree is fine. And yes SPC do have authority over privates. They are usually placed into a team leader position and CAN give privates orders. SPC can range any where from high speed initiative types, to disappear as soon as a detail comes down types. A SPC is an E-4, Privates are E-1/E-3. So yes privates are subordinate to SPC.

3) Medics are trained in their individual weapons. Usually a M9 pistol and the M4 carbine. Sometimes the M500 Shotgun. Medic is just another job in the Army. They have the exact same rank structure as the infantry or a cook. When a combat medic is assigned to a line combat platoon, they answer only to that Platoon Sergeant. If they are assigned to an aid station or CSH, they follow the normal chain of command in their medic unit.

4) Some films get military slang and euphemisms pretty close, others are just horrible. lol. I don't know of any sites that list it though, and each branch has their own.
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US Army Scout
Answered By: wraeth - 9/11/2010
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