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Why do right-wingers still like to insist that the stimulus failed and didn't create any jobs?

Http://factcheck.org/2010/09/did-the-stimulus-create-jobs/

Sit down, shut off the Fux News, and put down the Kool-Aid.

I know you conservatives dislike the whole "reading" thing, but give it a try for once.

"The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, more commonly known as the stimulus bill, has been featured in more than 130 TV ads this year, according to a database maintained by Kantar Media’s Campaign Media Analysis Group. In many of those ads, Republicans claim the bill has "failed" (a matter of opinion) or state (correctly) that unemployment has gone up since President Barack Obama signed the bill into law on Feb. 17, 2009. The national unemployment rate was 8.2 percent in February 2009, and it now stands at 9.6 percent, having peaked at 10.1 percent in October 2009.

But it’s just false to say that the stimulus created "no jobs" or "failed to save and create jobs" or "has done nothing to reduce unemployment" – or similar claims that the stimulus did not produce any jobs.

As we have written before, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office released a report in August that said the stimulus bill has "[l]owered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.8 percentage points" and "[i]ncreased the number of people employed by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million."

Simply put, more people would be unemployed if not for the stimulus bill. The exact number of jobs created and saved is difficult to estimate, but nonpartisan economists say there’s no doubt that the number is positive."
The stimulus should have been larger, but this was all that could be passed

We are still suffering from the Bush Recession. and it will take a while for the employment situation to improve.

Asked By: D.R. East-Coast Elite - 10/4/2010
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Because it is true

The stimulus did not create any jobs.

When you take away the government money that is paying for those jobs, then the jobs go away.
Answered By: Dennis c - 10/4/2010
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Perhaps because the stimulus failed and didn't create any jobs.
Answered By: Iron Man - 10/4/2010
Which 440 fake districts are you getting your numbers from?
Answered By: Filibuster - 10/4/2010
Truth hurts, huh?

Let's get some things strait. Just because the government deficit spends to rebuild a road that doesn't need rebuilding doesn't mean the economy has really grown. Actually we receive a net loss from "make work".
Answered By: Brutus - 10/4/2010
Probably because it was an Economic failure

If you change the turged aspect of your question. Removing the absolutes like insist and any, you have a closer grasp on what really happened.

Sure some jobs were created (mostly public sector) and sure some Right-Wing Citizens are concerned; but not all and not abject insistence.

The reality is Michigan has over 20?employment. Several States are in the teens and nobody knows where the 9?umber came from that Politicians like to use in Campaign speeches
Answered By: Obama W. Bush - 10/4/2010
Because if they say it enough, gullible Americans will start to believe it.

I would also add that without the stimulus spending state and local governments would have been pummeled; schools, police officers, firefighters, etc. As it is, they have had to take serious cuts from previous years but the stimulus has kept them afloat.
Answered By: CONvict Shrubya - 10/4/2010
It has failed and has cost the country jobs. I stand by that.
Answered By: apeman605 - 10/4/2010
Then why is the unemployment so high?
Answered By: wonderlich - 10/4/2010
They insist on many things that are not true.

Anything that feeds their propaganda machine, they'll spread like a plague.
Answered By: Holy Cow! - 10/4/2010
The point is had the democrats gone supply side the unemployment rate would be back down to 4?nstead of up to 10
Answered By: tylertxanreborn - 10/4/2010
It is clear. The stimulus failed and did not create any jobs. Anyone with a brain can figure it out.
Answered By: regerugged - 10/4/2010
You should know that 0bama's Chi-town cronies run factcheck.org
Answered By: bronco2786 - 10/4/2010
Facts? They have no use for facts. Just excuses to hate Obama.

Their argument is, "then why is everything not better yet?" LOL...Seriously? This is the level of ignorance that we are up against.

They seem to ignore Bush's MANY attempts at a stimulus, yet they did not seem to care when unemployment continued to snowball.
http://www.latoyaegwuekwe.com/geographyofarecession.html

The stimulus did work, economist have acknowledged this, but the stimulus was not enough. We knew this from the beginning.
Answered By: James - 10/4/2010
Couldn't have a d**n thing to do with employment figure rising, or the unemployment benefits being extended could it?
Answered By: Vickilynn - 10/4/2010
It's such a failure that NOT ONE Democrat is running an ad touting it!
Answered By: Sooners Girl - 10/4/2010
Because it didn't. Temporary census jobs don't count, either. If it created so many jobs, then the unemployment rate would have went down, and it didn't...and saying it "saved" jobs that "would have" gone away is purely speculative, and would only count as concrete data if you had a "What-if machine" like Dr. Farnsworth on Futurama.
Answered By: Disco Stu - 10/4/2010
Patching roads.....giving money to teachers and other government employees creates no long term job growth! Because after the roads are patched with high union wage costs (most roads were perfectly fine), and states budgets are in the tank again next year, we will be in the same place again! The only way a stimulus would work is it was used to create new businesses with tax incentives for the private sector. Jobs like manufacturing were people could have a job longer then 2 months!
Answered By: VC - 10/4/2010
"They all lie. I don't want to know. I said what I wanted, you said what you wanted, now I don't like to talk politics. It's all about numbers and figures until it's not. The stimulus was a total waste. If you were a Republican you'd be saying it did nothing, but you won't"
I quote the most honest Republican I know on the subject of the stimulus.
Answered By: Mother Hubbard - 10/4/2010
In our town of 2000, the stimulus created jobs for 20 college/high school students over the summer. Painting fire hydrants and house numbers on the curbs. Skills that I am sure will help them succeed in like. **(sarcasm)**
Source(s):
Stimulus funds ------- money not well spent.
Answered By: Bobbi - 10/4/2010
The cost per job was too high and the jobs were mostly only temporary. I'd be surprised if the washington elite even knew what a job was... they're in the incubator of 'hollywood for ugly people' and don't know what goes on in the world below their ivory towers.
Answered By: Taylor - 10/4/2010
Well, whether it created jobs (for MOST people it didnt) or not. it was terribly inefficient. The stimulus, using those numbers, cost $284,000+ PER JOB it 'saved'

Using that stimulus money the government could have just paid a yearly salary of 35,500 dollars to 26.4 million people instead.
Answered By: Tim M - 10/4/2010
Lol saved jobs do not count as job creation. good lib try but nobody believed it and it takes a fool to believe it. lol @ u
Answered By: slg70 - 10/4/2010
Republicans should be lined up and shot with their own guns
Answered By: YoungCommunistNProud - 10/4/2010
Governments don't create jobs. Businesses do. The best that government can do in that effort is to amend their policies to stay out of the way of the process. The stimulus was Obama's biggest failure to date.
Answered By: Texas Libertarian - 10/4/2010
That's theory, why is that so hard to understand. It's not factual and in fact the formula they are using, was built on a hypothetical theory of economics. Hey it could be the closet to the truth but no one can say it is or it isn't. There are other models out there that come out with much more damaging numbers. That's why you can't put stock into those numbers as well as all the polls and the what ifs. The bottom line is more americans are worse of today then yesterday. Forecloses are still up, Business are not hiring, people are still getting laid off. Store are closing their doors, more then 40 percent of americans are receiving some kind of financial help, and the country is in debt up to it's eyeballs. The question is no longer did it help/work, but how do we get americans back to work and stop the bleeding.
Answered By: Parent - 10/4/2010
You are parroting the Administration theme that "more people would be unemployed" without the stimulus bill. How do you know? Very easy to claim something that cannot be proven. Of course all good 'Obamabots' take it as faith.

As far as the CBO being nonpartisan, I think that's a fairy tale. The CBO will answer any question asked in the right way to get the desired rersponse.
Answered By: williegod - 10/4/2010
The stimulis didnt create any jobs, just look around how many people are out of work on the streets and lost everthing they had,and not to mention the unknown suidsides. the stimuls did more harm than good...
Answered By: Davd - 10/4/2010
Wow, nice, the stimulus cost us over $200k per job "saved" or gained. Can I get one of those jobs? And it was NOT Bush's recession. No matter how liberals want to spin it, the economy did not head south until after the 2006 election when Nancy the Shrew and Dingy Hairy Reid took over. Budgets are voted by the CONGRESS, not the president. And yes, President Bush should have vetoed a lot that he let go, but it is still the Democrats recession.

Before libs took over congress:

4.7?nemployment
$400 Billion dollar deficit. Too large, but not near what it is now
Stock Market at all time highs

Libs take over and the dumbest man in Washington, Barney Frank leads the House Financial Committee. The rest is history.
Answered By: Philip Lee - 10/4/2010
"Why do right-wingers still like to insist that the stimulus failed and didn't create any jobs?"

Saying that it failed, which it did, and saying that it didn't create any jobs is two entirely different things. Sure, we all know that it did create a few jobs but it didn't do what they promised it would do, hence it is a failure.
Answered By: Danny - 10/4/2010
Because they know if they repeat it loud enough and long enough a large proportion of their followers who won't or can't think for themselves will believe it. The birthers are a perfect example. As are the people responding-all I'm seeing are the same tired talking points regurgitated ad nauseum ad infinitum by the con elite and their mouthpiece, Faux News. You'd think they'd be tired of it by now, especially since it's utterly clear that cutting taxes on the wealthiest 2?oesn't create jobs and only creates wealth for that top 2? Trickle down economics is a myth.

"tylertxanreborn", please provide facts to support your contention.
**EDIT**
D. R., you're absolutely correct, the stimulus should have been much larger. Shades of FDR...
Answered By: gilliegrrrl - 10/4/2010
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