How do I "go around" a permanent disqualification from MEPS?

	How do I "go around" a permanent disqualification from MEPS? I was recently denied my dream and life goal to become a Navy S.E.A.L. at the very first step! I need to know how to "go around" a permanent disqualification from the Navy because of my "Hyper-winging scapula, that does not exist, and I have a waiver for. PLEASE, help me to achieve my dream in anyway possible. no BS comments please. I was recently denied my life goal and dream to join the navy at the very first step. During my physical my doctor noted that my shoulders protrude a bit. He called it a hyperwinging scapula and recommended a waiver. I saw my doctor and he evaluated me. Head to toe he could not find a single problem with me. I submited a waiver he wrote me and now I am now permanently disqualified from service for a condition that does not exist according to MY doctor. I dont need scrutanization on the difficulty of BUD/S or the risk of hindering me and my fellow soldiers in the future as my doctor, my recruiters and I know that this condition is not legitimate. NO BS ANSWERS PLEASE. All I need is help from people that may know who to contact. Thankyou. Asked By: - 11/24/2010

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I don't believe there's going to be any "go around." Sorry. But I'll try to explain why things are the way they are. First: one problem is that your doctor isn't aware of military regulations. At best, he's aware of what it takes to function under normal conditions in everyday life. Civilian doctors are only interested in "normal functionality." He has absolutely zero idea of what demands will be put upon your body in the military in general... least of all special warfare. The doctors at MEPS are. And it doesn't make any difference what your doctor, your recruiter(s), or you think at this point. As has been stated, you're doctor doesn't have all the information or the perspective, or the interests of the military in mind. Your recruiter(s) may only want to process another recruit. And you really don't know either. You are not a doctor. You are not even military. I'm sorry, but it would appear that all you see is a dream going out the window. It's a sad fact of life that no matter how badly we want something, sometimes we can't have it. I have a buddy who's about 20 years younger than I am. He has a good job, a wife and two sons, a nice house... seems to have everything. Last week he collapsed and was taken to the hospital. He apparently has a cancerous brain tumor. He has been given three to six months to live. I don't suspect that's what he wanted either. Second: your doctor did not submit a waiver. He only submitted his opinion regarding the condition so you might request a waiver. Apparently the request was denied. You cannot expect to be issued special equipment (packs and tanks) to fit between your shoulder blades that apparently "protrude a bit." Supposed you got your waiver and washed out because of some inability to perform what was required due to your alleged problem? Would you want to go for a waiver for that too? I'm not a medic. I don't know anything about your shoulder blades. But suppose your alleged problem was exacerbated by your training and caused permanent spinal damage? Would you expect the military to pay for your medical bills for the rest of your life along with a healthy medical disability check each month? Ok, maybe your shoulders wouldn't cause you any problems. But why would you expect the Navy (or any branch of the military) to take that chance? To be safe, if they made a mistake, they erred on the side of caution. And you can bet they would do so for anybody. It's not personal. Third: just out of curiosity, can you, with the aforementioned alleged problem, do the required push-ups, sit-ups, and pull-ups... easily? Remember, those standards are minimums. They don't qualify you for BUD/S. They just qualify you to attempt to train for BUD/S. To get to SEAL you need the entire package. You need the body. It has to be able to deliver under extreme conditions... way beyond what the average person can imagine. This is the easiest part. I believe most people can get into shape. You need the mind. It has to be quick, logical, objective, pragmatic, and flexible. It has to be able to apply obscure rules to concrete problems and to quickly and accurately develop discrete, workable solutions. I think this is tougher. It demands concentration. It's not as much fun as working out. Those two parts of the package are indicative of what you are capable. But there's a third part to the package. You also need the man. That's who you are. Who you are makes you able to exceed your capabilities. You've been working on who you are since probably before you were born. You added a little when you cried when you didn't get your way. You added a little when you did chores around the house without having to be asked by your parents. You added a little when you persevered because you stuck with a difficult problem until you got it solved... or when you walked away because it was too difficult. You added a little when you shared praise you received with a coworker, or when you tried to place the blame for one of your mistakes... or failures... on a coworker. I don't think that's something you can improve in a few months... or a few years. It's the product of almost two decades. You can't get by with one or two parts of the package. It doesn't make any difference if you can do an obstacle course with a house on your back, if you can't be trusted to do the job when the stuff is hitting the fan and flying all over the place. It doesn't make any difference if you're a 4.0 student, a member of Mensa, and got your Ph.D. in nuclear physics at 15. If you freeze up under pressure, you can't use it. And no matter how badly you want it... no matter how driven you are... no matter how committed... if your body isn't up to the task, or if your head freezes up under pressure, you'll go home on a stretcher... or in a box. The Navy doesn't want that either. For those reasons, the Navy tends to be pretty selective. I was in the Navy 25 years. I even sat on a couple of selection boards. Answered By: Mark - 11/24/2010

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There is no Go around, you eitrher meet the standards or you don't. SeAL does NOT permit waivers of any sort to join their ranks. YOUR doctor's opinion means NOTHING.. Only the MEPS doctors' opinions matter as they have years of experience with military stressors. you paid your doctor to say there was nothing wrong with you. Answered By: Mrsjvb - 11/25/2010

Look up the definition of "permanent". Answered By: mgan - 11/25/2010

Well, prove that it doesn't exist, otherwise you can't enlist. Military service isn't a right. If the docs say you can't, you can't. Answered By: David - 11/24/2010

There is no "go around". sorry. Source(s): USMC. Answered By: Casey Forrest - 11/24/2010

If it doesn't exist you wouldn't have a waiver. and if you are medically disqualified you don't need to lie and put other soldiers lives at danger. Answered By: how do you like me now - 11/24/2010

Get a medical evaluation from your personal doctor. If you really don't have it, bring in his paper and bring it to meps. If the MEPS doctor says you do, tough cookies. BUDs is tough, and you NEED to be physically right to get through it. Don't lie, you're just going to get yourself hurt in BUDs and medically DQ'd. There's a reason there's a huge washout rate for BUDs. Not only do people drop out because they can't do the physical requirements or they think it's too hard - they get seriously injured. People have died during BUDs. It isn't a walk in the park and only the strongest, sharpest, and most enduring people make it through to the end. Answered By: Handsolo - 11/24/2010

Sorry...There are "NO WAIVERS" for the SEALS... or for any Mental Health Problems... Source(s): Retired Marine...VSO... Answered By: Marine5 - 11/24/2010

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