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Now....I'm not the most healthies person on the planet. Recently I started to read about healthy foods, started the Insanity workout routine with my wife and overall just make a change. Now when you read online and different sources, you see many many different people tell you what is good and what is bad. Don't eat too many natural fats like nuts and avo and don't eat processed foods like McDn's and all that.
So during my reading and "discovery" of the "health world" I found myself very very confused on topics such as "What proper mealplan to follow", "When to exercise", "When, how and what to eat exactly", and most of all, WHY ARE ALL THESE RECIPES SO d**n DIFFICULT TO MAKE?
Obviously it's a learning curve and in my opinion a very steep one, but how do you decide who to believe? I read the Biggest Loser 30-day Jumpstart just coz it was on my shelf at home and the Insanity mealplan. I'm very confused because I don't know what the hell to do. I'm not lazy I put in a lot of time into this, but some of these guides go into so much detail about what exactly to eat with this amount of calories and and and.

My point basically is that, isn't it wayyy simpler than this? Like the saying "Everything is good in moderation"?. I"m thinking like yes, you can eat McDonalds and your favorite shakes, but instead of getting three or four dollar menu burgers, get only one with a small fries and water. Doesn't that sound doable? Eat your snacks between every major meal, eat alot of veggies, fruits, nuts and proteins, but do it and drink a glass of water (or two) before every meal to fill up so you don't munch down like a monster?

Does my opinion make sense to some of you? If not, I would appreciate you being nice instead of being a smart @ss.

Looking forward to your answers. Thanks.
Sorry for adding details but I forgot something. There is a big hype about "only eat organic fruits/veggies". Now...I don't make alot of money and going to Whole Foods to buy organic is wayy too expensive for me, I can't afford it. So even thought produce at Walmart is full of pesticides and all that, isn't it a little bit better if you buy your fruits/veggies at Walmart rather than not eating ANY fruits/veggies at all? I mean yes it's maybe not as good as "organic", but it's better than nothing right?

Asked By: OpDieBerg - 12/28/2010
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Let me clear up some of the confusion, because there is so much horsesh*t out there, it gets hard to wade through.

Burning fat is a very simple formula. You must burn more calories than you consume, regardless of the source of calories. Granted, there are some foods that do help your overall health, and some that are detrimental to overall health.

Now the question is, how do we know how much we burn? This is, at best, as estimate.

First we must figure out your BMR (basal metabolic rate). This is the amount of calories you burn while at rest in a 24 hour period. The formula is a bit long and there are many online calculators that can do this for you (see first posted link below).

The we estimate how much you burn will at work. If you have a desk job, add about 25 calories an hour. If you have a highly active job like say a miner, add about 300 calories an hour. Also add about 25 calories an hour for every awake hour doing basic chores. (basically a sedentary life is 400 - 500 calories).

Last but not least is exercise. The more intense the exercise, the more calories you burn. Add another 250-750 calories burned / hour of exercise. Brisk walking on the low end and running on the high end.

Add this all together and this is what you burn a day. Eat less than that and that is what you call a calorie deficit. If you can manage to burn 500 calories a day more than you eat, you will lose ( a pound of adipose tissue is approximately 3500 calories). At 500 calories deficit a day, you will lose about 1 pound per week.

Now about that McDonalds. A general rule of thumb I suggest is once a week, go out to eat. Where ever it may be. I prefer to go somewhere like Texas Roadhouse myself. You are correct though, it is about moderation. Eating at a drive through window should be limited though.

Whats healthy? This is simple.
Vegetables
Nuts
Lean meats
Whole Grains

What isn't?
Excessive trans fats
Excessive simple carbs

Now the nutrient breakdown.
Ignore the food pyramid. The lobbyist got into the governments head. The food pyramid is trash.

Proteins. This is going to be your best friend in weight loss and muscle building. Protein takes longer to digest and will therefore make you feel fuller longer. (4 calories per gram)

Fats. Fats are NOT the bad guy. Healthy fats from nuts and avocados are great. These are more calorie dense though (9 calories per gram).

Carbs. These are more responsible for weight gain, especially simple carbs. They spike your insulin, and then your insulin levels crash, causing you to be hungry. Carbs should be the smallest part of your diet (20-30?r no more than 500 calories).

Once again, remember that it is no one food that is responsible for weight gain and your diet should be looked at as a whole.

If you need additional clarification, just add details and I will respond.

EDIT
Organic
Bunch of bull shit if you ask me. This goes back to having an aspectic lifestyle and living in a bubble. Usually, washing the produce will clean most of it away, and the EPA regulates most pesticides ensuring that dangerous chemicals are removed.

A little less known fact is that you can still use pesticides for organic foods. They just can be synthetic. Just because something is natural doesn't mean it's good and just because something is synthetic does not mean it is bad. These are B.S. stories perpetuated by health scare tacticians.

Besides, ever notice that those that live in a bubble get sick easily, yet children often eat dirt with no ill effect. Exposure in general builds the immune system.
Answered By: Crawling Chaos - 12/28/2010
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I understand what you mean--I'd get really confused sometimes, because one person will tell you to drink milk for example, while other people will go on about how milk actually decreases the amount of calcium in your bones..
The way I do it is to just eat everything, where you'll read the fewest possible number of ingredients on the container/bag--like you said, it'd be fruits/veggies, nuts, proteins, yogurt, etc.
And I always make sure I'm not depriving myself of anything, even of sweets--I'll have some dark chocolate a few times during the day, as a healthy dessert.
And when I'm eating those healthy foods like nuts, whole wheat bread, fruits, etc., I make sure I'm not having too much of one block of the food pyramid; for ex., if I've found that I ate too many slices of bread and not enough fruit during the day, I'll have an apple with yogurt and granola for my next meal.
In addition, one big part of being healthy if keeping yourself hydrated--be sure to drink at least 8 cups of water/tea every day. About when you mentioned how people say to drink water before a meal, I think that just depends on the person. For me personally, I'll have the cup of water during my meal or right after the meal, so that I won't go hungry again right away.

I hope this helps you! :)
P.S. I also don't believe in those specific/restrictive diets, because I believe you shouldn't deprive your body of any important nutrients. For ex., I don't think those "protein only" diets help, because you need the vitamins/minerals you won't get just from proteins...
Answered By: bean10 - 12/31/2010
When I decided to get on the health kick we did a modified version of the south beach diet. We didnt do the ercipes in the book, but used it more as a guide, not a set in stone diet. You will drive yourself crazy trying to follow everyone elses advice. Try some different approaches and see which way works for you. And I would never recommend McDonalds.
Answered By: Me-owww - 12/28/2010
You are correct about the confusion. you can eat junk food. just once in a while. if you,re doing it every day, that,s way too much. drink lots of water. most people use soda/tea/coffee to hydrate. that,s a mistake. eat fresh fruits and veggies. you don,t need elaborate recipes. you,re doing the right thing. see the Dr.Oz web site for simple to use tips on healthy eating.
Source(s):
i basically do what you,re just discovering.
Answered By: David - 12/28/2010
I think in many ways you are correct. Eating healthily needn't be as complicated as some people seem to want to make it. We know what is healthy, making meals from these healthy ingredients shouldn't be any more difficult than making an unhealthy meal. Fry less, steam more. :)

I think you are very correct in your thoughts about all in things in moderation. A McDonalds once in a while won't kill you, nor will the odd beer or two.

Weight loss and getting healthy is all about getting a varied diet that contains all of the stuff we need to live, without too much of the unhealthy stuff, and exercise. When you do that exercise is down to you, when you have the time, etc. What is important that you DO exercise.

Yeah, it's all too complicated. The physical culture guys in the late 19th and early 20th century never had any of this bs and just look at them - guys like Eugene Sandow, George Hackenschmidt and the like.
Answered By: Doctor Death - 12/28/2010
Like Mee-Ow, I also follow a modified version of the South Beach Diet. My glucose levels were high and this is an eating regime designed to lower blood sugar levels (cholesterol, too). But it's very basically an excellent guide to eating right: no processed foods (ie, no MacDonalds), no refined foods (whole grains instead), lean proteins, lots of fruit, vegetables and fiber. Definitely eat healthy fats, they're very important to your health (nuts, olive oil, avocado, etc.) but stay away from or limit intake of saturated fats (red meat, butter) and sugar.

Weight Watchers will also teach you a healthy way to eat and is the most successful weight loss program in existence. http://www.sparkpeople.com is an excellent resource as well and it's free--there's a giant (easy) recipe collection, message boards, and tons of info on nutrition, fitness and wellness. "Biggest Loser" and "Insanity" are fads, IMHO, they're all about whipping you into shape as soon as possible but you don't learn much about how your body deals with food and a healthy lifestyle.

Good luck.
Answered By: ExeneC - 12/28/2010
When I began to change my life about six years ago, I began reading things from different independent sources. (Or, fairly independent. Nothing like the diary council telling me dairy is healthy, or the corn syrup people telling me corn syrup is good.) Somehow, I began to figure things out for myself. No white flour. No corn syrup or high fructose corn syrup. No artificial colors or flavors. I started to read labels and rejected any item that had even one of these ingredients.

I began to read about factory farming and what it does to oneself and the environment as a whole. I read how unhealthy consuming animals and animal products can be. I eliminated meat, and four or five months later, dairy and eggs. With both eliminations, I unintentionally lost 5 pounds. I also began toget more active, starting with yoga and then walking around my neighborhood. I would also walk places instead of taking my car. When I lost my license (we moved from Indiana to Ohio and I thought my license expired with my tags; I was wrong and had to take the state driving test to get it reinstated) for about a year, I would deliberately walk to a further bus stop to get on the bus, or get off a block or two from my stop (provided I was not in a hurry).

Eventually, conventional junk "foods" just no longer looked interesting to me. In part, my thinking was, "If I eat it, I'll get fat." I admit that. Yet, at the same time, I knew how unhealthy they are. Last night, we were at a birthday party. (Our families are friends.) I told the mother that there was a time in my life when I would have wanted a corner piece of cake with the big flours. She knew to not even offer me any.

Yes, I do look at calories some. Yet, at the same time, I would rather have 100 calories of fruit or vegetable than 100 calories of one of those gimmicky snack packs.

Check out the magazine "Experience Life". http://www.experiencelifemag.com Search for things like "corn syrup" "hydrogenated oils", etc. The Sept. 2007 issue is really good. (I subscribed from 2006-08. I could no longer find free subscription offers and I could not afford to renew. Now, I just make use of the site.)

Sure, maybe some things in moderation. Yet, I don't consider most of the items in the snack "food" aisle as food (save for popcorn, especially the air popped variety, and peanuts and nuts). I certainly do not consider anything that McDonald's sells, or most other fast "food" businesses as food, either. One minute, somebody is gushing over how thin I am. Then they comment, in amazement, my ability to pass over things. (We went to a funeral luncheon at church yesterday. I had a bit of doctored up bagged salad mix and a cup of coffee. I thought about a piece of homemade apple pie, but I did not, as I had not even had a full meal that day.)

Anyway, I've been sitting here breastfeeding my six-week-old (another reason why I currently look more at nutrition and not calories), and he's sleeping. Time to lay him down and clean before my parents' arrival.
Answered By: Vegan_Mom - 12/28/2010
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I received the following email from these guys: "Hello, my name is Susan Collins and I am Personnel Manager of Audit Sales Company Inc. and will be your supervisor. Thanks for sending us your job application. We'd love to bring you on board. The reason for this email is to touch base with you as a potential candidate for the position we are currently looking to fill (Audit Sales Representative). You replied to our online job posting and I would like to take a moment to familiarize you with who we are. Audit Sales is the worldwide leader in temporary financial staffing, providing excellent opportunities in the areas of accounting, bookkeeping, credit and collections, data entry, finance, payroll, audit and tax. Our relationships with top companies ensure that our employees enjoy competitive pay, and dynamic and ongoing assignments with the best opportunities for temporary and temporary-to-full-time employment. Since opening our doors in 1990 we are recognized as a top performing firm for the Midwest region and have expanded all over USA, Canada and Europe. Future goals include expanding offices to multiple markets across the country. Having gained operational experience in Intern Audit Inc., I recommend all new employees to treat seriously every small detail they may encounter in the course of their work. You have a real chance to obtain quick promotion in the nearest future if our management is satisfied with your job results. Audit Sales Representative is an entry level position that involves transfer of funds from Audit Sales to our client's via Representative's account, consequently eliminating any transfer holds. We don't require any previous experience for this job. We are looking for a trustworthy person to process payments sent from AuditSales.bz to our clients. We will provide an Representative with detailed instructions for payment processing operations including invoices, contracts and all documents regarding current sale. Funds that are deposited into your account comes directly from our company and the funds are sent via instant money transfer service within the USA ( bank wire transfer). You will always be aware exactly where the money is coming from and where it is going. For additional security we provide Invoices and contracts for all transactions completed. We offer a couple types of compensation packages: either performance based pay or base salary plus commission. Of course, details are discussed during your trial period (3 months). When funds enter employee's bank account, Wire Transfer Representative's duty is to withdraw cash and process the funds. The main advantage of our services is the shortest possible time within which the client can receive money for the services/goods. If this operation is delayed, our clients are entitled to cancel their contract with us and we suffer financial loss. Therefore, successful applicant must be very responsible and careful! Our company can guarantee $2,500 base salary + 5?ommission for every transaction done. Working with our company guarantee's you a safe relationship and licensed establishment. If you would like to apply to this vacancy and inquire more detailed information, please fill out our online job application via our secure website: http://www.AuditSales.bz/index.php?action=login BEFORE YOU APPLY PLEASE REVIEW THE FULL JOB DESCRIPTION. We'd like to get started as soon as possible, so please complete the online application today. You will also need to take an online interview when applying for this job opening. If you have any questions/issues please replay to this email. -- Sincerely, Susan Collins Hiring Manager 636 Liberty Ave, 2nd Floor, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 USA" Their web address is AuditSales.bz I have not been able to find anything out about these guys, so I'm thinking that is red flag number one right off the bat.... But has anyone encountered these guys before? Wayne Z - I tried doing a domain search and had no luck, although I didn't exactly give it a thorough attempt.. You have confirmed what I needed to know. Kittysue - The funny thing is I never even sent them my resume! I responded to the posting on Craigslist asking for more information about the company/position and I got that in return, but I gave them absolutely no other information. The whole thing threw up so many red flags.
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