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How did people make ice before we had electricity?

Asked By: Its snowing outside? - 4/15/2011
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The first ice-making systems relied on ammonia distillation. A hardwood fired, steam engine-like unit was used to boil ammonia which was allowed to cool within a cooling tube and thus artificial pre-electric refrigeration was born.

Harvesting ice isn't "making ice" . There were limitations to harvesting as not all areas had winters cold enough to produce ice from winter lake freeze overs. There is a debate as to what spurred the need for ice the most. With the advent of the meat packing industry meat from the west needed refrigeration to keep it from spoiling. There became a demand for the ability to produce ice outside of winter. There was limited use of ice to ship home the civil war dead but was so haphazard that embalming won out.

"History of NH3 as a refrigerant"

Ammonia first came into commercial use in the mid-1850's and began to take hold in the late 1890's. As our nation turned into the 20th Century, ice harvesting was the largest single employer group in the U.S. at the time - more people were employed cutting ice out of lakes and rivers than any other type of job. An unusually warm winter occurred during the late 1880's - natural ice became scare and had to be imported from Europe at great expense. Natural ice, regarded by many at the time as 'God's ice', precluded many people from purchasing the new 'synthetic' ice. However, this marked the beginning of ice production using newfangled machinery at the time: an ammonia refrigeration system. Companies such as Henry Vogt Machine (boilers came along first followed by ice machine in the 1930's), Vilter, Frick, Wolf-Linde et al got started right about this time as the demand for ammonia refrigeration ice-making machinery mushroomed."
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"the Southern Plow Company, in 1877. Using the skills developed during the war, the Iron Works continued to fabricate a wide range of steam engines for plantations, mills and riverboats. By 1880, only the Columbus Iron Works was manufacturing steam engines within Georgia.

The technique which the company perfected while building steam engines allowed it to become a pioneer in the refrigeration industry. In 1872, the Iron Works, directed by George J. Golden, erected the city’s first ice machines, but similar devices were already operating in other southern cities. The Columbus Iron Works, however, was one of three companies within the United States to begin mass-producing ice machines in the early 1880’s. For the next twenty years, the Iron Works produced the nation’s best selling ammonia-absorption machines. It’s H. D. Stratton models (which froze from 3 to 100 tons of ice per day) were installed in ice plants throughout the nation, Latin America, and Canada (at prices ranging from $4,400 to $45,500).

The first commercial ice making plant manufactering operation was founded in Columbus, GA. Part of one of the original apparatus has been preserved at the National Infantry Museum http://www.conventiontradecenter.com/history.cfm

http://www.rogersrefrig.com/history.html
Answered By: Eman the Geoman - 4/19/2011
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Before electricity and refrigeration in general, ice was cut out of ponds and lakes in the winter. This ice was then covered in sawdust and kept in the shade. The sawdust acts as an insulation to keep the ice from melting. The bigger the ice chunks you start with the longer they lasted.
Answered By: Roger - 4/16/2011
They used to harvest it in the winter from lakes and ponds and rivers and store it in huge ice sheds for the summer, around here even well into the 20th century (I have seen pictures).

Since many places do not freeze in winter, they didn't use ice there. They used salt to preserve things. thus the importance of salt in the pre-industrial economy and the reason spices were such a big thing (spices cover up the flavor of meat on its way to being inedible; why do you think wicked hot spicy foods tend to come from hot climate societies?).
Answered By: busterwasmycat - 4/16/2011
Naturally
Answered By: Josh - 4/15/2011
In the cold, outside
Answered By: Stephen Paul - 4/15/2011
Found this on wiki answers:

Before refrigeration, ice was an extreme luxury in the summer months. In Europe, drinks were kept chilled (and ices made) by bottling liquids and cooling them in a solution of water and saltpeter, which produces relatively low temperatures.

In general, households which had ice had generally stored some from winter, packed in sawdust, in an ice house. I remember being fascinated as a little girl reading the scene in Laura Ingalls Wilder's Farmer Boy where Almanzo and his family cut large blocks of ice from a pond with a huge saw and then pack and store them.

Those who didn't have the means or the wherewithal to store ice-which was most people-kept their food and drinks as cool as possible by storing them in window boxes, in spring houses where small streams ran through cool dark building, or even sometimes tied to lines under water in a lake or pond. As you can imagine, this wasn't terribly effective and many people died from eating spoiled food and/or dairy, most famously President Zachary Taylor who was said to have been brought down by a snack of cherries and cream eaten at an Independence Day celebration.

It wasn't until the latter part of the 19th century that refrigerated train cars came about as a means of shipping produce. The first of these were cooled by blocks of ice housed in insulating material (patented in 1867, I believe). Before that, all of the produce you could buy had to be grown locally. The invention of refrigerated train cars helped establish Chicago as the "hog butcher to the world" (because meat no longer had to be butchered on site and sold immediately) and California as a mass producer of "luxury" perishables (citrus fruits, peaches, avocados, etc.). The invention of refrigerated train cars made such an impact on society, that it is actually part of the U.S. History curriculum I teach to my 11th graders!



Ice harvesting

The use of ice to refrigerate and thus preserve food goes back to prehistoric times.[1][dead link][2][dead link] Through the ages, the seasonal harvesting of snow and ice was a regular practice of most of the ancient cultures: Chinese, Hebrews, Greeks, Romans, Persians. Ice and snow were stored in caves or dugouts lined with straw or other insulating materials. The Persians stored ice in pits called yakhchals. Rationing of the ice allowed the preservation of foods over the warm periods. This practice worked well down through the centuries, with icehouses remaining in use into the twentieth century.

In the 16th century, the discovery of chemical refrigeration was one of the first steps toward artificial means of refrigeration. Sodium nitrate or potassium nitrate, when added to water, lowered the water temperature and created a sort of refrigeration bath for cooling substances. In Italy, such a solution was used to chill wine and cakes.[3]

During the first half of the 19th century, ice harvesting became big business in America. New Englander Frederic Tudor, who became known as the "Ice King", worked on developing better insulation products for the long distance shipment of ice, especially to the tropics.
Answered By: Emperor - 4/15/2011
I don't think they did. Though if they wanted to there are other ways, but they all take quite a bit of advancement in science. Perhaps react large amounts of reactants in an endothermic chemical reaction underneath a water bath. It could possibly convert a lot of it into ice.
Answered By: Dustin - 4/15/2011
<<http://www.canalmuseum.org.uk/ice/icecream.htm> This interesting article will tell you what you need to know. You can still see 'ice houses' in the grounds of stately homes where ice was stored during the winter and remained solid underground for the rest of the year e.g. Felbrigg Estate in North Norfolk.
Answered By: mad - 4/15/2011
They used to have Ice houses and in some cases Iceworks.In the winter the ice from water ponds would be packed and stored in underground chambers where it would be much cooler than on the surface this helped keep a stock of ice for many months.Some stately homes still have these ice houses,though not in use now.On Dartmoor near Oakhampton are the remains of the Sourton iceworks,the idea was to store commercial quantities of ice for sale to Plymouth trades people.After a couple of warm years and little or no Ice it closed.o/s ref 546 900.
Answered By: bunion the cat - 4/15/2011
IF electricity is not available one can use a gas- or propane-powered refrigerator. These refrigerators are interesting because they have no moving parts and use gas or propane as their primary source of energy. Also, they use heat, in the form of burning propane, to produce the cold inside the refrigerator. A gas refrigerator uses ammonia as the coolant, and it uses water, ammonia and hydrogen gas to create a continuous cycle for the ammonia.
Prior to refrigeration, the only way to preserve meat was to salt it.
The BASIC IDEA behind refrigeration is to slow down the activity of bacteria (which all food contains) so that it takes longer for the bacteria to spoil the food.
Answered By: Backoftheclass - 4/15/2011
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