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Http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/16/opinion/16kristof.html?src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB&pagewanted=print

Our Lefty Military
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
As we search for paths out of America’s economic crisis, many suggest business as a paradigm for cutting costs. According to my back-of-the-envelope math, top C.E.O.’s earn as much as $1 a second around the clock, partly by cutting medical benefits for employees. So they must be paragons of efficiency, right?

Actually, I’m not so sure. The business sector is dazzlingly productive, but it also periodically blows up our financial system. Yet if we seek another model, one that emphasizes universal health care and educational opportunity, one that seeks to curb income inequality, we don’t have to turn to Sweden. Rather, look to the United States military.

You see, when our armed forces are not firing missiles, they live by an astonishingly liberal ethos — and it works. The military helped lead the way in racial desegregation, and even today it does more to provide equal opportunity to working-class families — especially to blacks — than just about any social program. It has been an escalator of social mobility in American society because it invests in soldiers and gives them skills and opportunities.

The United States armed forces knit together whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics from diverse backgrounds, invests in their education and training, provides them with excellent health care and child care. And it does all this with minimal income gaps: A senior general earns about 10 times what a private makes, while, by my calculation, C.E.O.’s at major companies earn about 300 times as much as those cleaning their offices. That’s right: the military ethos can sound pretty lefty.

“It’s the purest application of socialism there is,” Wesley Clark, the retired four-star general and former supreme allied commander of NATO forces in Europe, told me. And he was only partly joking.

“It’s a really fair system, and a lot of thought has been put into it, and people respond to it really well,” he added. The country can learn from that sense of mission, he said, from that emphasis on long-term strategic thinking.

The military is innately hierarchical, yet it nurtures a camaraderie in part because the military looks after its employees. This is a rare enclave of single-payer universal health care, and it continues with a veterans’ health care system that has much lower costs than the American system as a whole.

Perhaps the most impressive achievement of the American military isn’t its aircraft carriers, stunning as they are. Rather, it’s the military day care system for working parents.

While one of America’s greatest failings is underinvestment in early childhood education (which seems to be one of the best ways to break cycles of poverty from replicating), the military manages to provide superb child care. The cost depends on family income and starts at $44 per week.

“I absolutely think it’s a model,” said Linda K. Smith, executive director of the National Association of Child Care Resource and Referral Agencies, which advocates for better child care in America. Ms. Smith, who used to oversee the military day care system before she retired from the Defense Department, said that the military sees child care as a strategic necessity to maintain military readiness and to retain highly trained officers.

One of the things I admire most about the military is the way it invests in educating and training its people. Its universities — the military academies — are excellent, and it has R.O.T.C. programs at other campuses around the country. Many soldiers get medical training, law degrees, or Ph.D.’s while in service, sometimes at the country’s finest universities.

Then there are the Army War College, the Naval War College and the Air War College, giving top officers a mid-career intellectual and leadership boost before resuming their careers. It’s common to hear bromides about investing in human capital, but the military actually shows that it believes that.

Partly as a result, it manages to retain first-rate officers who could earn far higher salaries in the private sector. And while the ethic of business is often “Gimme,” the military inculcates an ideal of public service that runs deep. In Afghanistan, for example, soldiers sometimes dig into their own pockets to help provide supplies for local schools.

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Asked By: Reality has a Liberal bias - 6/16/2011
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Socialist? The Military isn't Socialist. The Military is a full blown Dictatorship. Totalitarian in nature. It has to be in order to do its job. But remember, you don't have to join and you can get out after a few years if you wish. Much different that if the Federal Government becomes something the Constitution forbids.

Wow are you lost! "It’s common to hear bromides about investing in human capital, but the military actually shows that it believes that." The Corporation I work for does that, too. Lots of private companies do.

The health care and Veterans benefits they get they EARN by putting their lives on the line. Sheesh! Are you trying to compare America's Military Veterans to Welfare recipients?

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Answered By: Jacob W - 6/16/2011
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Well in a socialist state, the governing power owns the means for production, you are right to say that the military has SOME socialistic traits, but the government does not control the company that makes it weapons, ships and planes, it only has control over how they use it and what they can do with it.
Answered By: TG92 - 6/18/2011
I think our advanced weapons technologies might have something to do with it.
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Answered By: ♛Aubrey♛ - 6/16/2011
....ever have a thought on your own?
Answered By: u_bin_called - 6/16/2011
This is really unusual for the NYT. Normally they decry the military as a bunch of testosterone pumped, violent war rapists and genocidal lunatics.

Still, they are trying to assert the military is effective because of day care centers. Only a liberal would think that sounds reasonable.
Answered By: Dark Night - 6/16/2011
WTB a tldr version. Regardless, the military is outside of the bounds of definitions like "socialism" and really isn't applicable.
Answered By: Zandakar Raklion - 6/16/2011
There is a reason why he is known as "weasel" Clark.
Answered By: AverageJoe - 6/16/2011
Cut and past liberal. Do a little thinking, your always wrong! I said ALWAYS.
The military is financed by a large capitalist system.
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W. Clark is a true Clinton sycophant weasel. Ask any Serb.
Answered By: x x - 6/16/2011
The military is not socialist in structure, form, or implementation.

A citizen's relationship with the military is a voluntary contract.

Military members are not provided "free" healthcare...it is provide in exchange for service.
They are not provide "free" homes, money is removed from their paychecks if they live on a military installation.

It is voluntary and they can terminate the relationship when the contract expires.

Socialism involves a lifetime commitment of slavery to the government.

It is a lie when they suggest that our military is socialist.
Answered By: mckenziecalhoun - 6/16/2011
Yes.. in bootcamp, you get the "individual" soundly beat out of you.. that's for sure.
Answered By: J_Spicoli - 6/16/2011
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