Conservative logic is an oxymoron.
Answered By: Bennite - 7/6/2011 |
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Employer got rich from hard work and good ideas and good business techniques... your logic is flawed
Answered By: Jim C - 7/5/2011 |
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There is a lot that is wrong with that argument.
The biggest flaw is the fact that the rich do not create jobs. Consumers/demand creates jobs.
Low tax rates encourage employers to take money out of their business, higher rates encourages them to expand or increase wages thus you have less money that is taxed at the higher rate.
Answered By: Maria Juarez - 7/5/2011 |
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Answered By: DynaFlowHum - 7/5/2011 |
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I don't understand what you are saying. All I know is we have a consumer based economy and demand creates jobs. Also trickle down does not work.
Answered By: Mr Wolf (I block no one) - 7/5/2011 |
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It would help if you used logic.
Answered By: wichitaor1 - 7/5/2011 |
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Yes there is a flaw in most republican thinking
Answered By: Stephen - 7/5/2011 |
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You got it, they may run the place, but if it weren't for the workers, they would have nothing. They need us just as much as we need them. You know, two way street.
Answered By: Demo Man - 7/5/2011 |
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Rich people having money does not create jobs to begin with.
Demand for product creates jobs.
If my employer won the lottery and had to pay no taxes ever, but lost demand for the product I produce, do you think he would still hire me to do nothing?
As long as the rich are still turning a profit from production, they will continue to hire people to meet demand even if they have to pay mor ein taxes.
The problem occurs when you drop tariffs and they can get the labor cheaper elsewhere from people that use cow d**g patties to heta their homes.
Answered By: Boss H - 7/5/2011 |
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Conservatives dont know about the low tax rates during the depression but with no jobs to show for it.
Answered By: The Gladiator - 7/5/2011 |
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Most conservatives say everybody should pay taxes, not just screw the rich.
Answered By: Average College Idiot - 7/5/2011 |
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You do not have to look hard to find the many that exist!
Answered By: ed e - 7/5/2011 |
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Which is why rich corporate heads pay their employees . . . Sorry, the rich still create the jobs and the employees make the corporation a success. Everything appears to be going according to plan . . . where is the fatal flaw?
Answered By: Snoopy - 7/5/2011 |
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Get rid of all of the employers, that will solve the problem. Right?
Answered By: No Quater - 7/5/2011 |
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Anyone who has watched Fight Club knows the saying "I am Jack's colon."....
Answered By: Diest - 7/5/2011 |
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No if I pay an employee and he isn't doing anything productive I'm losing money. Besides Liberals contradict themselves much much more, as an example. The reason illegal immigration doesn't work is because they would get healthcare and wellfare that should go to Americans. Well Liberals are pushing for free healthcare for anyone on this soil. So they are the reason illegal immigration is a problem.
Answered By: matthew - 7/5/2011 |
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The flaw I see is that if you give a poor man 20 dollars this morning a rich man will have it now. But if you give a rich man 20 dollars he will leave it on the desk until tomorrow and not pick it up until the illegal alien maid comes in to clean up the office and never spend it.
Answered By: Food Fight - 7/5/2011 |
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It is human nature to be greedy and to hoard. Many rich people hoard money. CEOs make more money in one year than what is given to large school districts to fund education. No matter how much they have, they want more. I do not have a huge problem with this but in order to live in a country that provides basic services for its citizens, the rich should have some responsibility because they are making most of their money from US citizens to begin with. If you allow those who are rich to hoard, the resources become locked up and the economy stagnates. Honestly, if ceos would create jobs in lieu of taxes, I would support new jobs being created and a general flat tax on everyone. However, this is not what is happening. These guys are getting obscene amounts of money that go nowhere but their bank and probably out of the country. Big corps like Westinghouse paid nothing in corporate taxes last year.
Yes employers will not hire people to stand around but many corporations have downsized to the point of overworking employees and actually loosing productivity. Americans are the least likely to use any of their meager vacation time. We have the lowest amount of vacation time out of western countries.
Answered By: Sandra M - 7/5/2011 |
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Employers only hire enough workers to meet their customer demand. Employers aren't going to hire people to stand around and read a magazine with no customers to offset the recent hiree's wages.
Answered By: Travers Watson - 7/5/2011 |
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Answered By: John - 7/5/2011 |
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'Jobs are Created by Consumer Demand, Not by Increasing the "Supply" of Disposable Income for the Rich...'
Answered By: Christian Socialist - 7/5/2011 |
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I should have stopped reading at "most conservatives..."
Conservatives believe in equality. We don't believe in a progressive tax. At least I don't.
Answered By: Me J - 7/5/2011 |
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Econ 101 go back to school.
Rich people sign the front of your pay check. And pay half of your Social security and medicare taxes along with ALL of your unemployment tax.
Answered By: x x - 7/5/2011 |
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Here's the flaw in your logic. It was also the flaw in Karl Marx's logic.
There is not a fixed amount of wealth in the world.
It does not follow that if someone gets rich they are doing it at the expense of the poor.
You can not get rich by selling someothing only to the rich. there are not enough of them.
You get rich by selling something that most people can afford.
Bill Gates did not become the second richest man in the world by selling one copy of DOS to a millionaire. He became wealthy selling DOS and then Windows to nearly everyone.
Bill gates practicly created the personal computer industry, Now almost everyone has one, and are richer for it.
Answered By: Joe in texas - 7/5/2011 |
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Cutting taxes on a CEO's personal income isn't going to cause the company he works for to hire or fire anyone. Demand creates jobs. No one can start a business in a recession without demand. The customers sign our pay check and the workers create the products. Many of the idle rich, those the Republicans are protecting, simply skim off the top. Unfortunately the ultra rich have grown in numbers and appetite and they aren't skimming anymore, rather they are sucking the barrel dry even as the workers are creating more and more wealth.
Answered By: Cons are racist - 7/5/2011 |
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Your argument is messed up.
If you are some rich dude with a busy company, according to you, higher taxes will allow you to hire more. that is retarded.
I understand your argument, is just sucks balls. Yes, employees help make money, thats why they exist, but the formula is simple: the lower the taxes, the more you can hire.
On another note, if you want to start a company, you want lower taxes. Also, as a conservative, I believe taxes should be even across the board: LOW!
Eliminate all entitlement programs, reform military contracts with manufacturers, deregulate banks, wall street, and medicine.
Get out of Iraq, Afganastan, Libya, and the UN
Answered By: David - 7/5/2011 |
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What would employees be doing if there was no one to create a business, invest capital amd market an idea? If your Boss closed his store and kept all his money in a shoebox, what would you be doing? If he just said "I have enough money, I don't want anymore" closed his shop, laid off all the workers, and barred the doors, what would you do? Do you own a business? Do you have the capital to invest in a unique product or service that the people want? Without the employers, nothing happens. Yes they need employees to make their company work. But there would be no company at all without the entrepreneur. If you punish the wealthy for creating wealth, they will stop doing it. Then what are you going to tax?
Answered By: James L - 7/5/2011 |
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No because it is itself a flawed argument.
The employer takes all of the risk. The employee takes none.
The employer often works very long hours. Especially in the beginning. The employee works their shift.
The employer gets whatever is left after the employees are paid their negotiated salaries. If there is anything left.
Answered By: Pied Hussein Piper - 7/5/2011 |
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Does taxing the rich create jobs or just give more money to an administration that has not submitted a budget in 2 years?
Answered By: smsmith500 - 7/5/2011 |
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Not really, but nice try, since the employee makes the product but doesn't have anything to do with advertising the product or selling the product or making the consumer buy the product. What you can't figure out is that it takes more than just the worker to produce an effective company.
If you think about it, the "rich" (what about those small business people?) won't create more jobs because more of their money is going to the government. If more of your money is going to the government you will have less to use on what you want.....employees, assets, advertising and such. You can't spend that money twice. I guess they didn't teach you that stuff in public school.
Answered By: Poke_the_Bear - 7/5/2011 |
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