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As a petroleum engineering student, which is better? Bachelors in chem and masters in ChemE, or both in ChemE?

I'm about to get my associates of sciences, and I need to decide if I should stay here and get my bachelor's degree in chemistry, or should I transfer out and get a bachelor's in Chemical Engineering, which isn't offered at my school?

Asked By: Laura Mitchell - 8/18/2011
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Petroleum engineering, chemical engineering and chemistry are all different programs. Let's start with the classes you'll have to take for chemistry vs chemical engineering.

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for a bachelors degree in chemistry, you'll need:
(1) math through calculus
(2) all the humanities and social sciences and languages you can stand
(3) chemistry classes including general chem, analytical chem, organic chem, physical chem, inorganic chem + all the accompanying labs + a senior theses + a couple of electives in chemistry

For a bachelors degree in chemical engineering (ChE), you'll need the same classes the chemists take PLUS:
(1) differential equations, + 2 or 3 higher level math classes like linear algebra, linear programming, statistics, etc
(2) the core chemical engineering classes including, introduction to chem engineering, fluid dynamics, mass transfer operations, thermodynamics for ChE's, unit operations, process design, process controls, kinetics, reactor design, + some chemical engineering electives + a senior thesis in chemical engineering (in place of the senior thesis in chemistry)

Those chemical engineering classes will take you 2.5 years to complete and they are all applied differential equations and are very math intensive. With the exception of statistical mechanics and maybe quantum mechanics, the math for a bachelors in chemistry is EASY compared to that in Chemical engineering!

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next, you CAN get accepted into a masters program in chemistry with a bachelors degree in chemical engineering because a BsChE basically contains a BsCHEM. But not the other way around.

you CANNOT get accepted into a masters program in chemical engineering without taking those core chemical engineering classes! You can't get a BsCHEM and go directly into a MsChE program without those additional 2+ years of classes!

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Which degree is better in industry?

A BsCHEM will almost always land you a job in a lab making about 40+k/yr starting off running tests. Someone else decides what you'll test. You test it and report the results. You'll be a pair of hands

an MsCHEM and a BsChE are usually treated as equivalent as far as pay scale (starting pay is about 65k/yr these days right out of college). Why the difference? Because a BsChE contains about an extra 2.5 years of very difficult and very technical classes crammed into a BsCHEM degree. An Ms degree is about an additional 2-3 years post grad.

As such, MsCHEM's and BsChE's are the people telling the BsCHEM what to test and using the results to decide what to do next.

Usually in industry:
MsCHEM's are usually managing development programs
PhDCHEM's are managing development teams AND R&D organizations

BsChE's are doing 1 of these 4 jobs, (1) process engineering - they are responsible for daily operations of a production line or plant, (2) project engineering - they are managing capital projects.. ie construction projects, (3) product or process development engineering - they manage the research that goes into developing new products or processes, (4) business management - they manage departments, expansions, investments, etc. Many corporate CEO's are chemical engineers!.

MsChE's usually take on the job of process and product development

PhD ChE's are usually running R&D groups and organizations. My boss is the CEO of our company and he has a PhD in ChE same as I do fyi.

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Which one is more versatile? ChE by far. We chemical engineers are used throughout all industries all over the world. Food, petroleum, chemical, space exporation, energy, automotive, etc all employee chemical engineers

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What's the difference between a petroleum engineer and a chemical engineer? A petroleum engineer is a more specialized engineer. They take a few different classes and study a few different topics than us chemical engineers and are not as versatile! Can a chemical engineer work as a petroleum engineer? We do all the time! Can a petroleum engineer work in non-petroleum manufacturing? Maybe. But, it depends on who's applying for the job and the job definition. Expect stiff competition.

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my recommendation? If you are whiz at calculus and have nearly straight A's in physics and chemistry, go chemical engineering. Besides the pay, the opportunities for ChE's are drastically better. If you want a graduate degree in ChE? don't waste your time on CHEM. go ChE.
Answered By: m w - 8/18/2011
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