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Anyone want to have an adult conversation about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?

Ok, So I had a previous similar question but everyone was scrutinizing the question too much I dont think people got the main message. Im a 15 year old Israeli Jew who believes Israel should have the right to exist. I want to have an adult conversation on Facebook or even here on YA! Messanger although it would be easier to do it on Facebook because then it could flow. People think I'm just trying to get with an Iranian girl but if you see my Facebook I am 15. Im going to be a Junior in Highschool and I already have a girlfriend. So if you are interested in having an adult conversation just say something and I will message you and maybe give you my Facebook address. On Facebook I am 15, you could see it without even being my friend on it because I dont have privacy setting on. I am just sick of all the hate! I think I would like you if I knew you. My family lives in Southern Israel near Gaza and a man died just yesterday from rockets in that town. I don't hate Palestinians. I hate Hamas for what they are doing. I am sure an average palestinian family would be just as loving and caring as mine. I dont know why we can't coexist. I know I am going to get a lot of ignorant answers and I know some of them are from Pro-Zionists as well. I read comments like "Arabs are like viruses, Nuke Em'" I also read comments that said "There would be peace without Israel. Looks like hitler didn't finish up his job" Its stuff like that that just doesn't make sense. I personally believe Hamas is behind all of problems in the middle east. If Hamas didn't send that suicide bomber to kill 8 innocent people in Israel there wouldn't have been all of those strike on both sides. If Hamas didn't smuggle in rockets to shoot at Israel there wouldn't have been the blockade on Gaza and the Turkey problem wouldn't have happened and Palestine could have been a good trading port for the Palestinians but Hamas ruined it. A country cannot let its neighbor just bomb its citizens. There wouldn't have been Cast Lead or anything if Hamas wasn't dangerous. If Hamas was a better example Palestine would have had a good shot in the UN next month. This is why I really want to talk to someone to discuss these thinks and know what you are thinking. I dont like it when innocent Israeli citizens are dying and I also really dont like seeing innocent Palestinians dying as well. We all feel responsable. Please no ignorant answers and don't scrutinize my question in some way. Its just a question. You understand the basic idea.
Lets show the world we could be different and not be like "Winter Summer"

Asked By: Bobby Popu - 8/22/2011
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I believe in the Declaration of Human Rights that gives every nation people the legitimate right to establish self-governance and self-determination. The modern state of Israel does not need to base it’s legitimacy on a belief of promise from God, even though many claim that is it’s only reason for legitimacy. Every nation people has a beginning, a homeland. For the Jews, Israel is that land. . For many centuries Jews worked to reestablish the national homeland through legitimate means and the course of the development of the state of Israel certainly reflects this process. The hard-earned efforts of Israel to gain statehood stand as an example of legitimacy, if people would study it, rather than the often so bizarre it borders on insane propaganda spread about it. The facts invalidate the charges by extremist voices who would attempt to negate the right of the nation people, Israel to exist in the home LAND of Israel. Israel's status as a legitimate, democratic nation state today depends on the process of law and adherence to protocol that it took to form the state for it's nation people according to the UN Definitions. Israel is a legitimate state legally recognized by the UN Charter, to take it's legitimate place in the council of nations. It exists as legitimately as the United States of America or any other member nation. The Jewish people had been working to reestablish sovereignty in the homeland centuries before the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America had been proclaimed against Britain.
No other nation on the planet would have been as restrained as Israel has been in trying to protect its very existence. Israel dedicated itself to working with the nations surrounding it to establish a peaceful Middle East in its Declaration of Independence. Look at the charters for Hamas and for the PLO. They contain direct statements dedicated to genocidal elimination of Israel. Only when their desire to build a nation in peace is greater than their desire to destroy Israel will they live and work toward that peace. Israel is ready.
British Mandate Palestine covered a much larger area than the land of Israel and thus, Jordan, a Muslim nation of the Trans-Jordanian portion of Palestine (ruled by the Hashemites of the Quraish tribe) was given sovereignty over 80?f the land of Palestine. Palestine was divided into what they then called Cis-Jordan and Trans-Jordan, the portion comprising approximately 80?f Palestine. The State of Israel was created 70?f Cis-Jordan. Yet in European and American funded schools, children in Gaza and the West Bank are somehow taught that Israel is 70?f Palestine! Don't they have accurate maps? The Muslim states of Jordan and Syria were clearly the lion’s share, yet no one appears to have a problem with the Muslim Palestinians having not one, but two nation-states carved out of more than ¾ of Palestine.Did they cry out that Jordan or Egypt were called an occupying country when they also controlled the West Bank and Gaza? Jordan did not permit access to holy sites when it controlled Jerusalem, Israel's laws protect all holy sites for Christians and Muslims. A Christian traveling in Jordan will have a Bible confiscated if they carry it openly, the Jewish National Forest sells Christmas trees for a very discounted price to Christians. There is a major difference in a democracy and a theocracy. I'm tired of the propagandizing to create war. Seek peace people. Israel has been ready for a long, long time.
The Palestinian nation (PLO) people who formed in the years after the state of Israel was established at the organizing of Gamal Abdul Nasser and Yasser Arafat and other Egyptian nationalists, have the right to their own nation people status, but not at the expense of another established nation. Another Arab nation state created from the British Mandate Palestine COULD have already existed for 60 plus years in peace alongside Israel if the surrounding Arab/Muslim nations had followed the example of Israel in establishing through legal means, a state that was in accordance with UN Charter rights. Instead, they chose to declare war on Israel and make permanent refugees of millions of their own who have now gone into a fourth and fifth generation of people who are nothing more than their political pawns to be used to justify elimination of Israel. Zionism's impact on modern society challenges the world to live up to equal standards of accountability and Human Rights.
Answered By: ✡mama pajama✡ - 8/23/2011
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Without the need for a wall of text, Israel has the Palestinians imprisoned in ghettos, all under the pretense of biblical claims. Nobody cares for Palestinians because they are not white, end of story.
Answered By: avomatic - 8/22/2011
You write too well to be 15.
Answered By: FOOT LONG WIENER MUNCHER - 8/22/2011
I'll have to decline your offer to have an extended conversation, but there are a few things I'd like to point out about your question. You blame Hamas for the problems in the Palestine/Israel conflict, but Hamas is only the representation of more fundamental issues. There are deep ideological differences that are keeping your countries apart, not to mention more practical disagreements over the rights to resources and trade. Peace isn't going to be made possible by dismantling any specific groups, it's only going to be possible when the people themselves want peace, and that's only going to be possible when the people let go of their attachment to the beliefs that are holding them apart. I don't see any way that that can happen as long as both sides are thinking of things in terms of what is justified by the past. But the fact that young people like you are asking questions like this is a very good sign.
Answered By: Redwing - 8/22/2011
I cannot believe they are fighting for a piece of land that is nothing more than pure freaking dirt!!
Answered By: Axy - 8/22/2011
I agree with you totally. Hamas and other factions like al quaida have the normal Palestinian citizen afraid to stand up and say stop. it does not help that nearly every arabic country backs Hamas and believes the lies that Israel is the aggressor in every conflict. I have been watching the ongoing war(and lets face it, it is a war) since I was in high school 45 years ago, and things don't look any better than they did when the UN gave Israel status as a country. (its like 2 small children fighting over a toy) I fear the only solution would be to destroy the whole area and leave nothing to fight over. but then, of course, the muslim fundamentalists would only bring the fight to whichever countries they moved to.
Answered By: Hybiscus - 8/22/2011
Glad to hear that you want to see things change.There could be a two state solution, but neither side wants the other to have any claim to Jerusalem or one wants to divide it and the other doesn't. If you really want to solve the problem you can start promoting the idea of a two state solution that leaves Jerusalem a city for all people and not just for jews or palestinians. Even if the UN has to run Jerusalem as a city belonging to the world it is better than this unending war.
Answered By: Guardian - 8/22/2011
Well kid i would have talked with you about it, but it would be quite boring, our ideas about the issue seems to be extremely similar, and i'm also an israeli jew, only 2 years older then you are.
אחי רק תקח עצה אחת ממני, אל תקשיב לכל השטויות שאתה קורא באינטרנט, יש פה אנשים משונים לאללה.
Answered By: azonshine - 8/22/2011
Here's a solution: Make 2 states with the PROPOSED 1967 borders and then give every Israeli and Palestinian dual citizenship.
Answered By: Free Speech - 8/22/2011
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