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What are your views on horse slaughter?

I've been having an argument with a large number of people on Youtube over this topic. I am pro slaughter providing that they're killed humanely as it does something about unwanted horses and would also have prevented less horses with poor conformation being created. However, because of my own personal views, I'm being hunted down and having huge arguments with several users over this.
Getting back to the point, how do you feel about this and also Obama legalising slaughter in America? I'm so glad he did as now horses are not being transported to Mexico where there are no regulations on slaughter.

Asked By: ILoveHorses - 11/26/2011
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Horses are indeed being transported to Mexico and Canada as they always have been. What Obama has done is to allow refunding of inspections which had been defunded prior, forcing the slaughterhouses to close. The inspections will cost US taxpayers millions while we subsidize foreign owned slaughterhouses that provide us with nothing in the way of jobs or revenue. Only international companies like Cavel have access to the foreign horse meat market. In the past these foreign plants have notoriously employed illegals and ex cons and provided no more than a handful of lowest paid jobs to US citizens. The communities near the plants lose property value, and deal with issues of water and air pollution among others. Our horses were still transported to Canada and Mexico throughout all of the years the US slaughterhouses were in operation, and that won't change. Many breeders who were forced to cut back on their breeding operations will now be resuming their breeding programs, because slaughter of horses encourages irresponsible breeding, and in fact, serves to subsidize it.
By 2013 the European market is anticipated to be requiring strict regulation of the animals slaughtered for human consumption. Any US horse to ever be slaughtered to provide meat for human consumption will be required to have veterinary records from birth on after documenting all medications, vaccines, dewormers, etc. administered, and all diseases or injuries treated. Since certain drugs such as bute, for example, have no safe withdrawal time established, and the metabolites are found in the tissues indefinitely, any horse having ever been given bute will not qualify for the European horse meat market. The Asian market is likely to follow suit, since our contaminated horse meat is currently being fed to their unsuspecting children and producing diseases like aplastic anemias and cancers. Our horses have not been monitored the way animals used for human consumption should be in order to assure safety of the meat being exported. All of us horse owners may find ourselves subjected to strict regulations, required veterinary control over administration of all vaccines and drugs used on our horses, and loss of many of the freedoms enjoyed at present if all US horses are seen as part of the food chain, whether or not we ever intended our own horses to end up at the slaughterhouses.

Those who neglect and starve their horses will not be able to provide the necessary documentation so that their horses, along with the many feral horses, will not even qualify as candidates to be purchased by kill buyers fulfilling foreign meat contracts.

So, none of the over-breeding and equine overpopulation issues will be solved, and the over-breeders can flourish while the taxpayers and the throw-away horses suffer for it. We haven't benefited anyone but those who need to clean up their acts or be put out of business.

Horse slaughter is not a necessity, and there are viable alternatives that provide for humane euthanasia, environmentally beneficial and safe recycling of carcasses, and will ultimately need to be incorporated anyway as the foreign market for our tainted horse meat dwindles, as well it should.
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Here is an excerpt of an article from the IFH on new regulations to meet the requirements of the European Union regarding the monitoring of quality of North American horse meat for export.....................

"......While the current system may be inadequately implemented, this initiative is only the first in a series of new regulations that by 2013 are expected to generate an electronic database with full medical histories wherein the EID is to be an implanted microchip in each and every horse destined for slaughter. Any horses flagged for banned substances will be considered ineligible.

How then will the current enforcement of these regulations develop to guarantee this happens? It is doubtful the U.S. will comply or adopt any formal procedures to provide sufficient information for the completion of a Canadian EID.

In any case, the market for North American horse meat may be on the verge of collapse.

Many European importers have promised customers that they will no longer purchase from the North American supply chain. This stems in part from the realization of the extreme cruelty of the slaughter pipeline in North America and Mexico, as exposed by GAIA, a respected animal welfare in Belgium, and Animals' Angels USA,13 together with the growing awareness that horses in North America are not subject to the restrictions that apply to food animals....."
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Here is a partial listing of drugs banned for use in horses to be slaughtered for human consumption. The FDA website has a full listing.................

http://www.vetsforequinewelfare.org/prohibited-drugs.php
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Answered By: gallop - 11/26/2011
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The human race is more so overpopulated than horses are. So Obama should pass a law that sends "unwanted humans" to slaughter houses too! If you're worried about confirmation, that's like saying lets kill all the fat people in the world. Their lives are worth no more, nor more less, than yours or mine. As well as all equine lives are equal.
And the reality is that they aren't EVER killed humanly.
I understand the issue with over population of horses, and that they are suffering, but look at third world countries....those people suffer too.

We should more so target breeding qualifications. Any person requesting a stud, artificial insemination, or purchasing a stud should have to qualify for a "breeders card" or some arranged standard that qualifies the person to breed. that would eliminate TONS of unwanted horses (being that some are not properly selected, trained, ect) and most people will not purchase horses due to conformational issues within the horse that arise to be performance problems.

In the end, I believe slaughter is the worst way to go about this issue, but hey its America....what more can you expect...
Answered By: MissEquestrian - 11/29/2011
Other animals get slaughtered why should horses be any different.
Answered By: Frosty524 - 11/29/2011
Like most people said, it's a necessary evil.
Answered By: Ruth - 11/27/2011
I was scandalised when I realised slaughter was illegal in America. All that happened was that horses were being slaughtered in far less humane circumstances.

Here in Norway slaughter is legal, but it is very tightly controlled and the conditions are humane. Horses have to have a stall with bedding, access to hay and water etc etc.

Several horses I have known and loved have had to end up at slaughter, and although it was unspeakably painful for me, I still found it better than digging down a body that could have had a further use, and also polluting the ground with chemicals that shouldn't be there. If a horse has to die it has to die and as long as the way it happens is humane I don't see a problem with them contributing further even after their deaths. It's a terrible decision to have to make but sometimes it has to be made.

I think America stands as an example that illegalising slaughter will NEVER lead to any good, as the unwanted horses will always have to end up somewhere, and illegalising it in the US was just a stupid way to try and put a band-aid on the wound.
If Obama has actually legalised it again, I APPLAUD him. Of course, those PETA freaks will not crucify him....
Answered By: Ellie and Excie - 11/27/2011
It is absolutely necessary.
Just like euthanising animals is necessary
Just like abortion can also be necessary.

Slaughter should be legal in every country. However, there should be laws to make it humane.
People need to stop breeding for the sake of breeding. Animals and humans alike.

Breeding should only be done by those with a license, and more care by the breeder as to what homes their animals end up in.
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Frosc - your answer makes you an unintelligent fool. Horseygal - As Uptown said, it is a necessary evil. I support it, but I support it because there is no other choice. It is disgusting what happens to these horses and as I said, it should be done humanely. But either these horses are sent there or they sit in a paddock and waste away, tortured even longer without food or water.
Answered By: Prodi Gium - 11/26/2011
Really couldn't care less about the subject. But your name makes you a real hypocrite. So for that reason either change your name to ILoveKillingHorses or I will stand with the Youtubers.
Answered By: Frosc - 11/26/2011
Your name is perfect for your view ignore that other person (forgot to look at their name...)! You love horses so you hate to see them suffer. There are so many unwanted horses in he U.S. I totally agree with you! I didn't know Oboma made that legal in the U.S. when did that happen?
Answered By: Mara Swapp - 11/26/2011
As much as I love horses I do agree it is necessary. Most horses that got to slaughter are not in good condition, sick and some have problems that cant be fixed. If we were to "save" all the horses that go to slaughter and they died anyway what would we do with them? There is so many unwanted horses out there now that sadly slaughter is the only thing to do with them. Again, most of the horses that go there are old, sick, or have problems. So I agree that horse slaughter is necessary but wouldn't be needed if people responsibly bred their animals, and in some cases not breed the animal at all.
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Going to auction once a month for 14 years and Never have seen a good horse go to slaughter.
Answered By: mini horse lover - 11/26/2011
It's a necessary evil. All worldy things must unfortunately come to an end. Slaughter is necessary, but it sure as hell better be humane slaughter.

ADD: agree 100?ith mulewrangler.
Answered By: uptown girl. - 11/26/2011
Horse slaughter is in my opinion not humane or right.. I think it is cruel and should be legalized.. You can't really do anything to stop it, even if legalized it is still going to happen, because there are sick people, who will do anything for a buck or do, even if it means taking a young,healthy, beautiful creature's life... Just sad.. I have seen in new papers articles about what happens at kill auctions, and how the future meat horses are treated in the last days of their lives, and it is brutal, it is not fair, for them to be treated so roughly and aggressively, to be put in a small, cold pen with any where from 10-100 or more horses, where they are kicked and bitten by each other, and are not given any water or food.. Just wrong... I can be quite long winded about this....

Now a days people are started to put their horses to sleep when they are old, or sick or have a permanent or life threatening injury, by a gun shot to the head, being the only way the horse can then be slaughtered as the sedative would ruin the meat and basically the meat would be no good, in my opinion I do not believe that is right either, it is disrespect to you loving companion who you cared for and loved, I sure know if I die anytime soon I hope my parent's wouldn't do anything like that, I am sure we all would prefer to be buried and cremated in dignity not slaughter for whatever meat we have, I sure know when my horse's time comes I will not slaughter him for meat, to make a buck or two, I will most likely cremate him and spread his ashes where ever I am living, or have in a urn, to remember him, not have him be made into someones dinner..

we all have opinions...
Answered By: horseygal1101 - 11/26/2011
I support For the first time In his term Obama And what he did, Signing The law to reopen Horse slaughter In the USA.. He had to do one thing right while In office Didn't he?

People need to stop thinking with there hearts and start thinking with there Brains, Horse slaughter Here In the USA Will be regulated and its no more cruel to slaughter a horse then it is a cow,pig or sheep. Once there knocked out and there throats are slit there DEAD. I think this is why all young people should at least take 1 year of ag and learn about Processing animals. So they could SEE what butchering animals IS REALLY like, They used to have tours of slaughter houses and i think That along with reopening horse slaughter they need to allow tours again so people can Stop MAKING assumptions and see That it is a humane process.

And People need to also realize that the horse Market is S hit.. And there are horses standing In auction yards Not going anywere becuse PEOPLE CAN NOT AFFORD THEM. rescues are overcrowded so theres No option there. I would rather see these horses slaughtered HERE IN AMERICA and given to The homeless and poor Becuse belive me when your In that situation YOU dont care if its a horse steak or a cow.. your going to eat. And people cry BUT HORSES ARE MEDICATED! well FYI so are the cattle,pigs,poultry we eat every day in america.

People say there will be no market for horse meat in america Thats utter Bull we have many cultures in this great USA who would eat horse.

The reopening of Horse slaughter will ALSO bring Much needed Jobs to america, I know most of you are young and dont understand the Hell we as Adults In america are going through but JOBS are needed badly.
Answered By: mulewrangler - 11/26/2011
The Horse industry has went down hill since the H.S. has been shut down in the U.S. And more horses are SUFFERING because of the vote to shut it down. As more horses are being turned loose and expected to fend for themselves and find food and water after they have had people take care of them for there entire life. Horses are starving to death, being abused more. And they are dieing SLOW and PAINFUL deaths because they are starving or injured. There pain is lasting for MONTHS not minutes.

And I have seen the horse industry when it was THRIVING and have seen if FALL since the H.S. was shut down. And people seem to only think about ONE thing....."Oh the poor horses are gonna be used for food! ect...." HELLO! I would rather see a horse go there then to SUFFER for Months on end dieing a slow PAINFUL death! If horse slaughter was STILL around less horses would be turned loose and starving to death or beaten.....

The Reservations around where I live are FULL of unwanted starving horses. And its SAD cause you cant do a d**n thing about it. The horse shelters or any shelter these days are FULL. And they are having to close because they dont have the money to take care of them! And people need to open there eyes and look at the BIG picture...the REALITY of whats really going on.......

Would you rather see a horse suffer for little minutes....OR ...... long,slow, painful MONTHS??? And yes its sad but to me seeing horses starving to death is sadder. But I seem to be one of the FEW people who see the reality of the H.S. shut downs......


But they just past laws that will allow the government to open it back up in the US
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Train Barrel and Pole Horses
Answered By: BarrelRacingLvr - 11/26/2011
Yes i am pro for the same reasons everyone else is. I was just wondering whether the people who make such a big huff against it are vegetarian or vegan? If they are neither... Well then they are hipocrites right?
Answered By: Stride - 11/26/2011
I agree with almost everyone who answered this so far. I do find it necessary as long as it is HUMANE. What I don't like about slaughter, well that it is slaughtering. :/ If they could just put the horses down in a nice gentle manner, I would be just fine with it.

The reason we need it is because there are too many horses out there that are not taken care of properly.. Or if we have too many horses out there that we can't take of, then our "land" get's overcrowded and overwhelmed. The horses would eventually die out all together. For example, if you were to put 40 sheep in a pasture that could have a maximum capacity of 20, the sheep would die out due to limited resources.
Answered By: ♥ Grover ♥ - 11/26/2011
I clearly hate Obama for what he has done to this country and i don't think slaughtering is necessary....
I think the only reason horses should be slaughtered is if they are to old and can't live right....
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i was born and raised in Texas on a 70 acre ranch with over 500 horses, i love them....
Answered By: Marine Country Boy - 11/26/2011
I'm going to quote "transported to Mexico where there are no regulations on slaughter."

Many people b***h and moan about the treatment of these animals and regulations surrounding slaughter but there is no way that slaughter can be regulated outside of one's country. If people are vigilant enough, then "humane slaughter" (it's any oxymoron in a sense) will be more likely than animals having a knife shoved in their spinal column to render them useless before being killed.

Until people stop seeing dollar signs in their ugly assed, colored, unproven, dead lame, unbroke stallion... then as many mentioned before, slaughter is a necessary evil. The price of the horse industry needs to be come hyper-inflated again to prevent even broken-hearted little girl from owning a horse. I'm not saying that you should have to be rich to own a horse (and I am far from rich) but you need to be financially stable before taking on 30 year commitment that costs more than a car payment for most.

I remember a few years back having an argument about one girl that wanted to end horse slaughter. Her proposition... set them all free. There is not enough sustainable land (hello, look at the mustangs) to turn out all the horses. Starvation takes longer. Disease would run rampant. Irritated farmers would have them labeled as "pest" so they could shoot them to protect their own lands. Mother nature's controls will kick in and create the herd population control measures that people are lacking right now (overbreeding, creating a false but sustainable environment such as supplementing with hay with four horses crammed on a single acre).

So do I agree with slaughter? I reluctantly say yes because we ran out of options... not to mention I eat beef, deer, drink milk and eat cheese so I'd rather not be too large of a hypocrite. In some cases, if the meat weren't shipped over seas it could be used to feed the starving population that is present here in America but we've grown to see horses as companions and not a food source.

I digress: a world without horse slaughter is nothing more than a pipe dream at this point. It's better to have it under a watch-dog type party to advocate for these horses to meet a quick and relatively pain-free, stress-free ending.
Answered By: Arburbula - 11/26/2011
I dont agree on slaughter since im a veggie. i dont mind it if theyve had a happy natural life. but horse slaughter is horrible, the poor tiny space they have is disgusting. i would never treat a beautiful creature like that. do they treat us like that? NO. it makes me so sad watching poor helpless animals be treated like this :(
Answered By: Ralph - 11/26/2011
I believe it to be a necessary evil, I love horses so much and people don't understand why i agree with it, but i would rather a horse be slaughtered for food, than wasting away in pain in a field in the back end of no where. I think as long as it's humane than that's OK, it's the inhumane ways such as in mexico that i totally disagree with.

Obama was right to legalise it. It was happening before but at least now, we are aware and it's not a hidden thing.
Answered By: mairead burke - 11/26/2011
I believe horse slaughter is necessary as long as its regulated. It is a terrible thing to think about but sometimes you don't have another option. This was spoken about horses going to slaughter >>>>>>
When it’s their turn, their death is not quick or painless. They are generally stabbed multiple times in the neck with a puntilla knife to paralyze them. They are still conscious when they are hoisted up by a hind leg to have their throats cut.
I think if US slaughter houses reopen they need strict regulations they have to run by. Even though we send a horse to slaughter we still want them to be treated as nicely as possible in the given situation.
I don't think you're wrong to have that opinion. It's yours and you own it. Others do not understand sometimes, non-horse people especially.
Also, with the close of slaughter houses we had unwanted horses running frickking on the interstates getting hit by cars and trucks, starving because no one could afford them or wanted them. In reality, which would you prefer?
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This is a great article that talks about slaughtering. It shows why they are being sent but also reveals some bad things about them. http://www.horsemanmagazine.com/2009/08/the-economy-and-the-horse-industry/
Answered By: KatherineROSE - 11/26/2011
NO HORSE KILLING IS MEAN AND CRULE WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE BRIUGHT TO A SLUGHTER HOUSE , KILLED AND THEN BEING PUT IN TACO BELL MEAT!!!!!!!!!!
Answered By: berby(: - 11/26/2011
This is vial! HORSE SLAUGHTER IS REALLY INAPPROPRIATE! Why would you slaughter a horse it done nothing wrong:(
Answered By: Surfer Girl - 11/26/2011
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I've always freelanced as a web designer and might have an opportunity to work at a large ad agency. sorta nervous about the culture and role, so I was wondering if I could solicit feedback about the type of strengths I might need to develop, ie., strong project management (learn to use basecamp!), etc. I've held jobs on the client side as a web marketing manager and before that freelanced -- but on the very small scale. anyone with similiar experiences or feedback I'd love to hear from you!
2 answers - Asked By: webguy - 2/11/2006
I know that Escrow is within Title industry in Texas. What would be the best way to get my foot in the door. I am assuming I will have to start as an Escrow assistant and work my way up, but I would really like to find out more about this career path. How does an officer usually get licensed? Are there classes we need to take and exam to take? Any response is appreciated.
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I have to get an electrican to fix an overloaded circuit and possible short. so do you tip and if so, how much?
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Can someone tell me te difference between computer science and a computer engineering major. Is it the same?
2 answers - Asked By: Rosalva - 5/6/2013
I received the following email from these guys: "Hello, my name is Susan Collins and I am Personnel Manager of Audit Sales Company Inc. and will be your supervisor. Thanks for sending us your job application. We'd love to bring you on board. The reason for this email is to touch base with you as a potential candidate for the position we are currently looking to fill (Audit Sales Representative). You replied to our online job posting and I would like to take a moment to familiarize you with who we are. Audit Sales is the worldwide leader in temporary financial staffing, providing excellent opportunities in the areas of accounting, bookkeeping, credit and collections, data entry, finance, payroll, audit and tax. Our relationships with top companies ensure that our employees enjoy competitive pay, and dynamic and ongoing assignments with the best opportunities for temporary and temporary-to-full-time employment. Since opening our doors in 1990 we are recognized as a top performing firm for the Midwest region and have expanded all over USA, Canada and Europe. Future goals include expanding offices to multiple markets across the country. Having gained operational experience in Intern Audit Inc., I recommend all new employees to treat seriously every small detail they may encounter in the course of their work. You have a real chance to obtain quick promotion in the nearest future if our management is satisfied with your job results. Audit Sales Representative is an entry level position that involves transfer of funds from Audit Sales to our client's via Representative's account, consequently eliminating any transfer holds. We don't require any previous experience for this job. We are looking for a trustworthy person to process payments sent from AuditSales.bz to our clients. We will provide an Representative with detailed instructions for payment processing operations including invoices, contracts and all documents regarding current sale. Funds that are deposited into your account comes directly from our company and the funds are sent via instant money transfer service within the USA ( bank wire transfer). You will always be aware exactly where the money is coming from and where it is going. For additional security we provide Invoices and contracts for all transactions completed. We offer a couple types of compensation packages: either performance based pay or base salary plus commission. Of course, details are discussed during your trial period (3 months). When funds enter employee's bank account, Wire Transfer Representative's duty is to withdraw cash and process the funds. The main advantage of our services is the shortest possible time within which the client can receive money for the services/goods. If this operation is delayed, our clients are entitled to cancel their contract with us and we suffer financial loss. Therefore, successful applicant must be very responsible and careful! Our company can guarantee $2,500 base salary + 5?ommission for every transaction done. Working with our company guarantee's you a safe relationship and licensed establishment. If you would like to apply to this vacancy and inquire more detailed information, please fill out our online job application via our secure website: http://www.AuditSales.bz/index.php?action=login BEFORE YOU APPLY PLEASE REVIEW THE FULL JOB DESCRIPTION. We'd like to get started as soon as possible, so please complete the online application today. You will also need to take an online interview when applying for this job opening. If you have any questions/issues please replay to this email. -- Sincerely, Susan Collins Hiring Manager 636 Liberty Ave, 2nd Floor, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 USA" Their web address is AuditSales.bz I have not been able to find anything out about these guys, so I'm thinking that is red flag number one right off the bat.... But has anyone encountered these guys before? Wayne Z - I tried doing a domain search and had no luck, although I didn't exactly give it a thorough attempt.. You have confirmed what I needed to know. Kittysue - The funny thing is I never even sent them my resume! I responded to the posting on Craigslist asking for more information about the company/position and I got that in return, but I gave them absolutely no other information. The whole thing threw up so many red flags.
3 answers - Asked By: Fratty Rower - 5/20/2013
The question explains it, i am thinking of going to an engineering high school but of course it will focus on other stuff too but still. What kind of jobs can you get because i dont want to be a mechanic(no offence to any) but please help me!
2 answers - Asked By: hungergameslover - 5/13/2013
L want to study medicine and work as a doctor but l am limited due to luck of required monyes. however l swtched on to anther career but still within my career interests as a care giver, but this is somthing to do with sales and marketing in the pharmcitical industry.
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1 answer - Asked By: Big D - 5/3/2013
Advances in technology will soon cause 70-80?nemployment in the USA. How will all those millions of people eat, then? That will lead to a conflict between Social Market-ists (gov't imposed wealth redistribution) and Free Market-ists (no gov't imposed wealth redistribution). First, the Luddite Fallacy. It WAS valid UNTIL machines could do most human mental functions better than humans. Some experts are already saying this, but generally it seems like the American Society and its leaders are proceeding in utter ignorance. You probably know about all the technologies that now exist or will soon be up & running, & which will massively reduce the need for human labor in the economy, thus MAKING MOST HUMANS UNNECESSARY to the economy. Some facts: (1) A couple weeks ago all the toll booth workers on the Golden Gate Bridge were all dismissed because the gov't bought a machine to handle everything. (2) Computer voice recognition already exists, in programs such as Siri and Google Voice and others. But very soon these programs will be so much better. Virtually all the human-staffed customer service call centers will disappear very soon. Human office receptions will be mostly eliminated. (3) McDonald's already has a prototype version of their fast food restaurant with NO human workers on site. (4) Wal-Mart & other retailers already have plans for stores with NO human cashiers. (5) Google's driverless cars and trucks will soon eliminate most drivers of commercial trucks & taxi cabs. (6) IBM's computer "Watson" defeated the best human players on "Jeopardy" about a year ago. Watson had to hear and understand host Alex Trebeck's spoken speech just like the human contestants. IBM created Watson to replace Medical Doctors. The plan is that nurses and nurses practitioners will take data from patients (temperate, blood pressure, reports of pains, etc.), enter that into Watson, and Watson will order tests and make prescriptions and treatment plans. Unlike human doctors, Watson will KNOW EVERYTHING about medical science. Doctor errors currently kill about 100,000 patients per year in hospitals alone. Patients will DEMAND to be diagnosed by Watson (or other equivalent) & have a prescription by Watson, since studies will show that patients fare so MUCH better when Watson is their “doctor,” and the cost will be MUCH less. (7) Computers are now replacing the lawyers that formerly had to spend massive hours read through massive amounts of documents turned over to the opposing side in "discovery" in civil lawsuits. Documents now are turned over in digital form, and computers search in seconds them looking for key words and phrases. (8) Soon publishers will stop printing books on paper. Everyone will have an e-Reader device. That will be the END of every physical library and bookstore. (9) Soon computers will be able to general characters in movies that are indistinguishable from real humans. Not only actors will lose their jobs, but costume people, makeup people, scene construction people, camera operators, key grips, electricians, lighting experts, etc. (10) New machines are replacing the humans who pick vegetables in fields. (11) New machines are replacing human security guards. (12) Human airplane pilots, both in the military and in commercial service, will soon be extinct. The FAA has already approved testing of drone planes for commercial transportation of non-human cargo. (13) Most trades on Wall Street are already being made by computers. (14) The U.S. Postal Service is doomed. Paying thousands of people to drive around in little trucks to deliver little printed pieces of paper to each household each day is going to seem more and more like idiocy. (15) Most of the reviews and analysis currently being done by human accountants, actuaries, tax experts, and other financial analysts and consultants will be done must better, more more quickly, and much more accurately, by computers. (16) Web sites already are using computer programs to write the text for stories that report on sports games. The program integrates the statistics from the game into a story text that seems to have been written by a human being. (17)Most education at the college and high school level will soon be done online, eliminating a massive number of workers. Thus, GIGANTIC UNEMPLOYMENT, in the range of 70-80?is coming soon to the USA. This will result in Rio De Janeiro type slums all over the USA. That will result in calls for gov't wealth redistribution, which will result in Armed Revolution, Counter-Revolution, concentration camps, & Latin American-style death squads. The rich and ultra-rich are never going to let any government get control of their wealth. Huge bloody CONFLICT is coming. * * * Politicians keep repeating the old canard that the solution is to train and retrain Americans for the "jobs of the future." But they are either morons or are lying, since anyone who thinks about it can easily see that even if every American worker had an engineering degree or a computer science degree, the economy just doesn't need that many engineers and computer scientists. * * * * * * * Why don't more people see this? Why aren't more people talking about this? We are facing soon a catastrophe in the USA (and in other places) on par of the plagues in Europe that killed half of the population in certain areas, and on par with the depopulation in Europe brought about by WWI and WWII. Sure, you can just repeat the Luddite Fallacy, and proclaim that the economy will always create enough jobs for most people to survive. But there is no law of economics that says that any law of economics will always operate the same. Laws of economics are not like the laws of physics. Economies and life forms can and do evolve in fundamental ways that make former economic models and ways of life obsolete. I'm sure the last tribe of Neanderthals were certain that nothing was ever going to change, right before the Homo Sapiens swooped down on them, chased them into a dead end canyon were other Homo Sapiens were lying in wait with big clubs. * * * * * * * * * In the past the Luddite Fallacy was valid since machines always needed the mental acuity that only human operators could provide, and machines frequently needed maintenance by skilled human hands and minds. But now machines have mental functions that equal or surpass what humans can provide in most work functions. And computers aren't so much repaired anymore as just thrown away and replaced. How many cell phone repair shops have you ever seen? Even most laptop computers are replaced rather than repaired. More and more laptop computers never even need to be repaired for years and years. In short, when the economy has no use for most Americans, all h*ll is going to brake loose, & that's coming soon. * * * * *
2 answers - Asked By: Perro Americano Invicto - 5/16/2013
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