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3.0 V6 F4A51 Transmission Issue?

So I have a 04 Stratus R/T Coupe Automatic with the F4A51 transmission - aka Eclipse GT. About a month ago, I started having some transmission issues. When I start the car first thing in the morning, it would not go in drive, I would put gearshift in D but it wouldn't engage... I had to pull it to 3 or 2 and the RPMs would shoot up to about 2000rpms and it would engage harshly, the transmission would usually slip badly when shifting from 1-2 etc. as well. Usually once the car had been warmed up, my car would go in Drive but still slipped. I am a college student in the mountains of Boone, NC so I had to wait until I came home to Charlotte before I could get anything done about it. I took it to a transmission specialist to see what was going on. They said it was a bad output speed sensor ($100) but that didn’t fix the issue. They then said my internal pump was bad so I might as well get the transmission rebuilt (with the updated parts Mitsubishi issued) for $2000. Well last night, I FINALLY got my car back from the shop with the engine warmed up (they test drove it) and I drove it straight home.
Well this morning I went to go get breakfast with a friend, I started my car up and went to put it in Drive ( I let car warm up for a few minutes due to the rebuilt tran, trying to go easy on it)and same thing…it wouldn’t go in D… I had to put it in 3 then back in D. There was no slipping of the transmission but that didn’t always happen anyways…I don’t know what to do, I’m really hoping I didn’t just spend $2100 for nothing. I called transmission place but they are closed until Monday and I was hoping someone here would have some insight on what this problem could be so I could tell the transmission place something helpful. Thanks
Travis, I hope you are not right but it sounds like you could be. I'm a 21 year old male and do not know to much about cars. They drove it around and said it could be a clogged valve which he said is a very expensive part to replace(didnt tell me a price). It actually was a Cottman transmission. He said he thinks it unclogged itself so now I'm going to pick it up later tonight and we'll see. I think you're right because when I drove it, when the tranny shifts gears, it's not as smooth as it should be, esp having a essentially new transmission. My car has had zero problems since we bought it in May of 2007 until now. I'm hoping the valve was the culprit and is unclogged or else I don't know what we're going to do. Thanks for your detailed response.

Asked By: Aaron O - 1/7/2012
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You got scammed by the easiest, most profitable trick in a mechanic's playbook: automatic transmission rebuild. Odds are they saw you as an uninformed person, threw out a bunch of jargon like "hard parts" to confuse you and conned you into the biggest payday for them, knowing full well you wouldn't know the difference. Usually happens to females, but younger males are just as susceptible. In their eyes, young person + shiny/fast-looking car = e********y

Was this by a Cottman's Transmission, Aamco or other national chain? If so, you'll have to sue them to get your money back because they'll drag their feet, do nothing and wait till the warranty runs out, making it your problem entirely. Same thing happened to my mom at a Cottman Transmission because she didn't do the homework ahead of time.

That being said, a properly rebuild transmission will work like a BRAND NEW one. It should work flawlessly from the very start. My dad rebuilt transmissions for GM and later Detroit Diesel Allison and was a mechanical engineer by trade. When my mom got scammed, I called my dad up and he said the exact same thing.

The output speed sensor is what drives the speedometer. If this acts up, you see it as a glitchy or dead speedometer. It works just like a speedometer cable in an older car like my 1987 RX-7.

Sorry to say this, but the most they probably did was drain & refill your transmission, probably with generic Dexron ATF instead of the proper Diamond ATF that Mitsubishi is very adamant about specifying in all of their automatic transmissions. This is to 'keep the customer coming back' and keep you forking out more money. If you paid by credit/debit card or check, call your bank to have the charge reversed immediately and run like hell. If you paid with cash, you'll have to sue them in court.

From my experience, Mitsubishi automatics are garbage to start with. As I said before, my father's specialty was automatic transmissions and he swore up and down by the virtues of simplicity and efficacy. The only vehicles he ever had always used GM's 4L60 Transmission, because it is very durable (used in full-size 1-ton trucks when towing), simple as far as automatics go (easy/cheap to rebuild) and does the job cheaply and efficiently. Parts are common, cheap and available anywhere too.

Having done two automatic to manual conversions, I can safely say that having your car converted to a manual transmission is the route you should go. Eliminate the possibility of these scams by eliminating the source. Plus, your car will be quicker, better on gas and much simpler to diagnose since you won't have a voodoo box full of garbage between the engine and wheels anymore. It'll have a box with 4 shafts, 6 sets of gears (5 forward, 1 reverse) and 80W-90 oil, one clutch that you control with your left foot instead of 5 constantly soaked in red goo. All in all, anyone that's ever played with legos could understand how a manual transmission works. There's just not much that can go wrong with a manual transmission unless you do it intentionally.
Answered By: Travis S - 1/10/2012
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