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Rename European Parliament to EU Congress?

Before you answer this question I would like to kindly ask people to put aside their feelings as to whether the chamber should exist at all. Personally I want us out of the EU and therefore do not want a European Parliament (the EP), a European Commission or any MEP's etc. Obviously feel free to agree or disagree with me but please separate your ideological belief when answering the main question, assume that the existence of the chamber is not up for discussion!

Anyways... I object to the name 'European Parliament' because I feel that it creates an inaccurate perception of what actually goes on in there! As far as I am aware the EP is the only 'Parliament in the world where non of it's members are able to propose legislation (they can only amend it), also majority voting in it's true sense does not take place, they use 'qualified majority voting'. Also there is very little debate within the chamber, as all of the main parties or groups operate within a permanent 'grand coalition': conservatives (EPP), liberals (ALDE) ad socialists (SD), whats more the ECR also vote alongside this coalition (except for a very small minority of Tory MEP's). The only real debate comes from those who want to abolish the chamber (left and right) or those who call themselves euro-sceptic within the big parties!

A real parliament would have directly elected members who are both members of the executive and of the legislature, this is not the case, therefore it is more of an assembly or congress as the members of the executive (cabinet) do not also sit as representatives (MPs).

A more appropriate name would be the EU Congress because:
1. The chambers role and configuration violates the definition of a Parliament!
2. The word European implies nationality when used within legally defined institutional frameworks, despite having most of the attributes of statehood the EU is not a country (well not quite yet)!
3 Calling our Representatives MEPs gives them a misleading job tittle, as it leads us to assume that the job of an MEP is the ame as an MP which is most certainly not te case! Congressman would be more appropriate, as people will see them in a similar light as a US Congressman, which is a much closer comparison!

Like I say I object to having these institutions in the first place, we never actually voted to have them, we only voted for a free trade area, we were promised we would not get any form of shared government! however if we absolutely must ae these institutions I think we should name them more accurately, as I feel the name is on of the things that creates an inaccurate perception of what the institution actually is in the eyes of many of the public!

There are many other more accurate names we could give it but since many of them are nt for polite company I shall spare you my bile!

What do you think? Do you disagree with my opinion? My analysis is sound I can assure you but please feel free to pick at it! Also do you think there should even be an EP no matter what it's called?
@ D S: While I wuld agree with you in saying that the voting system for the European Pariament is substantally better then the broken FPTP system we operate in Westminster, you are actually missing the point on the democratic question. The European Parliament does not have any power to propose legislation, you clearly have not studied political systems and do not know how to compare them, you have latched on to 1 single positive thing the EU has brought us but have ignored the democratic deficit. It is a simpe fact that a parliament is not a parliament if non of its elected members have any power to propose legislation and that non of its elected members are a member of the executive!

While I did indulge in sharring my opinion on the whole in/out debate, I was able to put thquestion aside to actually propose an answer to the question I posed, you were unable to do this and ignored the question at hand. If some day the British people as a whole decide we must be part of a federal state
@ D S: While I wuld agree with you in saying that the voting system for the European Pariament is substantally better then the broken FPTP system we operate in Westminster, you are actually missing the point on the democratic question. The European Parliament does not have any power to propose legislation, you clearly have not studied political systems and do not know how to compare them, you have latched on to 1 single positive thing the EU has brought us but have ignored the democratic deficit. It is a simpe fact that a parliament is not a parliament if non of its elected members have any power to propose legislation and that non of its elected members are a member of the executive!

While I did indulge in sharring my opinion on the whole in/out debate, I was able to put thquestion aside to actually propose an answer to the question I posed, you were unable to do this and ignored the question at hand. If some day the British people as a whole decide we must be part of a federal state

Asked By: Him - 4/13/2012
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HIM.. I have read your lengthy introduction and your reason of suggestions. I agree with you on the point that the present title of European Parliament is not the correct title for that establishment.
In order to call it by the present name, I feel we, the members and that means all those within the European Union should have the right to vote for those that wish to represent us. This is however not the case.
So I agree when you suggest that it should be known as the European Congress.
In order to call it a Congress, we would have a body of people with a particular purpose, such as business, and acting as a legislative body.

May I just say, that I am against the present dictatorial attitude which this present European Parliament is representing itself, but that is purely my own opinion.
Answered By: old grumpy - 4/14/2012
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Wow, you are just making it up as you go. The EU is one of the most democratic institutions. Due to proportionate voting into EU parliament, you have more influence on the EU parliament than the British Parliament.


A real parliament would have directly elected members who are both members of the executive and of the legislature, this is not the case - basic fail to understand democracy.

You actually did not spare us your bile, you shared it with us indiscriminately.

Edit: Can you explain to me why every democratic system separates executive, legislative and judiciary and you just on your own decide that this is not the way you like it - another basic fail to understand democracy.

And how does the word European imply nationality?

Your verbosity is impressive but that does not prove a point.
Answered By: D S - 4/13/2012
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