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Atheists, how do you explain this scientific revelation in the Bible?

The earth has no physical supports. As Job 26:7 says: "God stretches the northern sky over empty space and hangs the earth on nothing." The four pillars signify that the earth is stable in its orbit around the sun. It is not to be taken literally. At that point, atheists still believed the earth was flat.

Asked By: ωнαттυρ - 9/2/2012
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You don't know anything about what the Bible says. When a Bible believer says something is not to be taken literally, it is because it is CONTRARY to science. The following contains a more complete description of the biblical cosmos, including your reference to Job 26:7.

According to Ecclesiastes 1:5 the sun actually goes around the earth--as, of course, it must, since, according to Ps 93:1, Ps 96:10, and 1 Chr 16:30, the earth does not move. And the earth cannot move because, according to 1 Samuel 2:8 and Ps 75:3, it is placed on pillars. And because it is placed on pillars, it has an underside and an upper side, as confirmed by Isaiah 40:22 which indicates that the earth is a flat disk.

(The Hebrew word translated as "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is chuwg, which means "circle" not "sphere." Strong's Concordance: "circle"..."describe a circle." Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament: "Circle...the earth conceived as a disc, Is 40:22." Hebrew-Aramaic and English Lexicon of the Old Testament: "draw round, make a circle." If a sphere were meant, the Hebrew word duwr would have been used. The ancient Hebrews would have gotten the idea of a circular earth by viewing the horizon from the top of a mountain.)

Since the biblical earth is flat, it has an underside and under the earth is the abyss, which is referred to several times in the Bible. That is also what is being referred to in Job 26:7 when it says that the earth hangs over nothing. (The original Hebrew word translated as "upon" in that passage in the KJV also means "over.") The actual sphere of the earth in space is not "suspended' or "hanging" "over" or "upon" nothing. It is orbiting the sun at 66,700 miles per hour.

There are several other verses in the Bible indicating the earth is flat, such as Nebuchadnezzar's vision in Dan 4:10-11 (if it were not flat the tree could not be seen from all the earth), and Dan 2:28 states that the visions of Nebuchadnezzar are from God. If the biblical god says the biblical earth is flat, it must be flat.

The original Hebrew word translated as firmament is raqiya, which is a noun derived from the Hebrew word raqa. That word is a verb meaning "to beat out," and is used in the bible in reference to beating out metal into plates or expanses of the metal (as in Exodus 39:3). So raqiya, as a noun, would literally mean "that which is beaten out."

The idea is that the firmament, or sky, is a solid, beaten out expanse or vault set on the rim of the flat disk of the earth. This understanding is confirmed in Job 37:18, which states:

"Can you beat out the vault of the skies as he does,
hard as a mirror of cast metal?" (New English Bible. .)

There, the Hebrew word translated as "beat out" (or "spread out" in other versions) is, as noted above, raqa.

That idea is also implied in verses such as Deut 4:32:

"Ask now about the former days, long before your time, from the day God created man on the earth; ask from one end of the heavens to the other. Has anything so great as this ever happened, or has anything like it ever been heard of?" See also Ps 19:1-6, Isaiah 13:4-5, and Matt 24:31.

The "ends of heaven" would be the base of the vault of heaven where it rests on the rim of the disk of the earth.

Also, the stars in the biblical cosmos are just lights set in the firmament. As mere lights in the sky, they will fall to the earth in the Last Days (Matt 24:29), something that is ridiculous considering the actual stars are other suns and many times larger than the earth.

So, according to the Bible the earth is a flat, immovable disk, supported by pillars and covered with a solid vault of heaven, the rim of which is is resting on the perimeter of the disk of the earth, and the stars are just lights set in the vault of heaven.

That this is the correct view of the biblical cosmos is shown by the fact that it describes a structure with parts that are fully consistent with each other. That structural consistency indicates that it accurately represents the cosmos as conceived by the ancient Hebrews and as its writers incorporated that view in the Bible.

Since that cosmos is nothing like the actual cosmos, its creator is mythical, just as the cosmos he is supposed to have created is mythical.

Moreover, according to the Bible, earth is the centerpiece of creation, and in the Last Days the biblical god will destroy the earth and the heavens as part of his plan for mankind.

That is ridiculous considering that the difference between the size of the earth and the size of the universe is even greater than the difference between the size of a hydrogen atom and the size of the earth.

It is therefore the height of geocentric idiocy to think that the whole universe was created merely for the sake of the earth and its inhabitants. All of which goes to show that the Bible cannot be considered the word of God, and therefore the god of the Bible does not exist.
Answered By: Lighting the Way to Reality - 9/2/2012
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Please. You're just "correcting" your interpretation to what scientists have already figured out. Note the quotation marks.
Answered By: Spanner - 9/2/2012
I face palmed myself so hard my nose is bleeding
Answered By: Low - 9/2/2012
The earth doesn't hang. It doesn't have pillars, either.

It says nothing about it orbiting the sun.

"At that point, atheists still believed the earth was flat." The Greeks didn't - in fact, they had proven that it was round, with science.
Answered By: Mr. Bluelight - 9/2/2012
All it's saying is that Earth is in space. Doesn't say anything about orbiting the sun.

Not just atheists, everybody believed the earth was flat.
Answered By: Adolf Hitler - 9/2/2012
If that's the kind of weak arguments religionists are forced to employ it smacks of desperation.
Answered By: Andymcj78 - Atheist - 9/2/2012
I explain it that you are nothing but a troll, poe, or extremely ignorant.
Answered By: Inigo Montoya - 9/2/2012
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Answered By: NATURAL SELECTION is too slow - 9/2/2012
Too bad it's only after the scientists discovered all that do you people claim that it's to be taken as a metaphor. Before that, it was claimed that the Earth was flat, and that pillars are real.

You keep using this word "scientific". I don't think it means what you think it means.
Answered By: Mr Deer - 9/2/2012
The earth isnt hanging
...and this really is an absurd stretch, to pretend that pillars means stability of orbit (whatever that means..)
...furthermore, the earth was known to be round for a long timeby the ancient greeks, who used knowledge from egypt and sumeria. Only uneducated people thought the earth was flat.
Answered By: idlenessss - 9/2/2012
The four pillars signify that the earth is stable in its orbit around the sun. It is not to be taken literally.

- It is "convenient" that you "say" it is not to be taken seriously, but then that is all of christianity, nothing but "convenience".

At that point, atheists still believed the earth was flat.

- In 250 BCE Eratosthenes determined that the earth was round, determined its circumference to with in 2?nd proved that the earth orbited the sun. "fundies" thought the earth was flat and burned people at the stake for saying different.

- The Sumerian tablets described the earth and all of the planets 3500 years before the bible was written. The bible plagiarized the tablets and you think the bible significant. Plagiarism is not significant.
Answered By: Ricardo - 9/2/2012
There is a lot of "hidden" facts in the bible. The thing is no one sees them as facts until it is proven by science then Christians go, "oh so that's what it means". So, while the bible may contain interesting facts like that it isn't the real source of knowledge about such things because no one notices it until science has already pointed it out.

Science and religion are both needed for a stable and advanced world. Without science we do not advance and without religion our social structure and morals corrupt and fall apart. One without the other leads to a poor world.
Answered By: Drake - 9/2/2012
LuLz

It is sentimental speculation and replacement theology at its finest lacking any meaningful philosophy that was had by the Judaism that reputedly spawned it.

AND, it's filled with lotsa ignorant mistakes:
Rabbits do not chew their own cud.
People can't float to the sky.
Rabbits do not have hoofs.
The Earth is not a circle.
The earth is not flat.
Pi does not equal 3.
Donkeys can't talk.
Bats are not birds.
Snakes can't talk.
The cure for leprosy is not rubbing birds blood all over a person.
Etc

Oh, and that bloke spending three days inside a fish is a bit suss, don't you think?

How could you possibly devise a science course around such nonsense?
~
Answered By: Everard - 9/2/2012
The bible is wrong, that is how I explain it. First you have to ignore the many other parts of the bible that are blatantly wrong, like there being a dome over the earth with doors to let the rain and snow in (from Genesis). Then there is the matter that the earths orbit in not a perfect circle and it is because of the physical forces of mass and gravity that dictate the earth's position, so the bible is wrong about the earth hanging on nothing (we are not motionless or in an empty vacuum). Also our sun is in motion and pulls the solar system with it.
Answered By: SBR32277 - 9/2/2012
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